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Data Centers: How We Power $7 Trillion by 2030. [💡 5 Ideas]

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Data Centers: How We Power $7 Trillion by 2030. [💡 5 Ideas]
Data Centers: How We Power $7 Trillion by 2030. [💡 5 Ideas]
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spk_0 Hi there and welcome to the audio version of our newsletter, also called of course climate
spk_0 CEOs.
spk_0 Got five ideas before you hear the same format most weeks.
spk_0 Starting with our title, which is a lead into our CEO to know 24 steps to build great
spk_0 climate and energy ventures based on experience across hundreds of startups.
spk_0 Are you intrigued?
spk_0 You should be.
spk_0 I'm intrigued.
spk_0 All right.
spk_0 The other topics for today, one climate data, going to talk about what it means when McKinsey
spk_0 projects $7 trillion to be spent on data centers by 2030.
spk_0 Yes, that's trillion with a T.
spk_0 Number two, CEO to know this ties to our titles is Todd Hines at magent spilled M.A.I.G.E.N.T.
spk_0 Also M.I.T. as well.
spk_0 Number three, investors spotlight cream, debug and Joe Goodman and below earth ventures.
spk_0 Number four, AI insight can AI be your cognitive reframing coach.
spk_0 That is an earful, but trust me, it's quite quite useful to tackle the voices in our in our head.
spk_0 No, not those voices.
spk_0 In number five, mindful moment, despair is a failure of imagination.
spk_0 Quite quite a challenge there.
spk_0 Number one, back to these this $7 trillion on data centers,
spk_0 expected by 2030 according to McKinsey, even if that's off by 50%.
spk_0 The implications are huge for new energy generation and of course climate impacts.
spk_0 How are we going to power all these new data centers?
spk_0 I know there's a super original question and not every single podcast or conference topic
spk_0 references the same thing.
spk_0 So, apologies for being almost right here.
spk_0 Look, is it through natural gas?
spk_0 No, as you probably know, there's for a four to six year wait for the turbines.
spk_0 Is it through new solar and wind?
spk_0 Wouldn't that be nice?
spk_0 But there's also a four year connection on average.
spk_0 There's a course by size and location plus plenty of permitting friction as well.
spk_0 Or, during number three, flexible data center demand.
spk_0 My colleagues at Duke University wrote a paper that has become the coolest kid at all the best
spk_0 parties. I think one week, this paper showed up on two podcasts I was listening to.
spk_0 Anyway, it's called rethinking load growth, assessing the potential for integration of large
spk_0 flexible loads in U.S. power systems.
spk_0 Shout out to Tyler Norris, Tim, Dahlia, and Adam and the team there at Duke.
spk_0 So, two main takeaways from a great paper here.
spk_0 Number one, the U.S. grid could handle about 76 gigawatts of new demand.
spk_0 If data centers eased off their power just 0.25% of the time,
spk_0 that's the low level of flexibility we're talking about here.
spk_0 Or, at 1% curtailment, the grid could welcome 126 gigawatts of new load.
spk_0 And despite what I guess I used to believe, the assumption that the data centers
spk_0 did not have any ability, capacity for flexibility, that happy to be wrong here.
spk_0 Number two, CEO to know Todd Hines at MAgent and MIT.
spk_0 So, he's a co-founder and CEO of MAgent, an MAIG-ENT,
spk_0 senior lecturer at MIT and also board chairman at the Woodwell Climate Research Center.
spk_0 Fathers raised over $500 million across various organizations
spk_0 and helped hundreds of teams of students,
spk_0 launch companies through the MIT Climate and Energy Ventures class and the MIT Climate and Energy
spk_0 Prize. His new book, along with co-authors Bill Alette, Ben Sultauf, Francis O'Sullivan,
spk_0 and Libby Weiman, is called 24 Steps to Build Great Climate and Energy Ventures.
spk_0 His newest venture, MAgent, leverages AI to accelerate climate solutions by turning
spk_0 all of us into super connectors to the right investors and the right partners needed to scale
spk_0 all kinds of solutions, in this case solutions in climate. In the newsletter version,
spk_0 I've got a short, whatever, 90 seconds or so, clip of a conversation with Todd as a teaser.
spk_0 Of course, listen to the full podcast. Number three, investor spotlight,
spk_0 cream and Joe over at Volo Earth Ventures. Volo is an early-stage climate-tech
spk_0 BC firm investing in clean energy, mobility, built environment, and industry.
spk_0 They're investing out of $220 million across two funds. So far, 36 companies they've invested in.
spk_0 And a shout out to EFI Connected, Volo Earth CEOs, Ben at Cambium,
spk_0 prior podcast guest Arun at Skyvin, also prior podcast guest Megan at Infcycle,
spk_0 an EFI climate CEO Fellow and also because at ReFrame Systems,
spk_0 also an EFI climate CEO Fellow, four great builders among 35 or 36 plus
spk_0 builders in their portfolio. The co-founders, Karim and Joe bring decades of experience and
spk_0 startups project finance and grid modernization across organizations such as Solar City,
spk_0 SunRot, RMI, DOE, and Aurora Solar, also a short clip in front of the podcast in the
spk_0 newsletter to give you a sense for what else is in the full podcast version.
spk_0 Number four, number four of five, this is your AI insight, AI as a cognitive reframing coach.
spk_0 Look folks, don't, don't bother them. When we vent constructively about,
spk_0 then honestly about problems, we could also ask AI to pretend to be
spk_0 look a stoic philosopher or cognitive behavioral therapy CBT based therapist as well.
spk_0 Three examples for you here. Number one, maybe you say, look man, those investors hated
spk_0 my pitch. By the way, in parentheses, that's going to be true 95 plus percent of the time or
spk_0 really getting them, getting investors to the point of investing. But if you've trained AI
spk_0 to respond like this, you know, as a stoic or CBT trained therapist, it could say this is just
spk_0 feedback data, not identity damage. What part can you test to improve the next pitch? And by the way,
spk_0 maybe they're just communicating they're the wrong investor for you. Two ways, three, baby,
spk_0 two ways, three. Second example, this is again what you could say, I'm falling behind my peers,
spk_0 everyone's going faster than I am. Scrolling LinkedIn makes me feel like a total slacker.
spk_0 I think we can all agree with that last part. The AI could say, look man, you're comparing someone
spk_0 else's highlight reel to your behind the scenes, super sloppy and honest, single shot type
spk_0 footage. Also remember, your KPIs, for example, flexibility and impact, may be different from theirs.
spk_0 For example, unicorn status and high high high high high valuations.
spk_0 Third example, my team missed another deadline. I just can't trust them to deliver. Your AI could
spk_0 respond. You're carrying the weight unnecessarily on your own shoulders all alone. However, what part of
spk_0 the process, not the people could your redesign, so success depends less on willpower and more on
spk_0 structure. Anyway, you get the idea. We have these voices in our head. They tend towards a
spk_0 negativity bias for for sure for kind of survival reasons, but they're not the full story. So
spk_0 have someone else, someone, something, what do you call AI these days? Have someone else serve
spk_0 as that balance to the inner voices. Number five, mindful moment to spare is a failure of imagination.
spk_0 We can't let the weight of the world crush us like little tiny ladybugs.
spk_0 One solution is, of course, to get more creative, to build the muscle of imagination,
spk_0 to find more solutions. I've got four four ways that I think are helpful to flex this muscle
spk_0 of imagination. One, have joking, take more showers and more walks, not because we're stinky or lazy,
spk_0 but giving our brain space can't allow for new ideas to emerge. I think we've all experienced this.
spk_0 Number two, surround yourself with why not people versus really why? Anyway,
spk_0 few are mental constraints can lead to more possibilities being on the table.
spk_0 Number three, reverse the problem. Instead of asking, how do I fix this?
spk_0 Maybe ask, how do I make this even worse? The absurdity can unlock unexpected solutions and
spk_0 maybe turn us around to the right direction. Finally, borrow other lenses. Imagine your challenge,
spk_0 as if you were a child, a poet, a plumber, a scientist on Mars, you get the idea,
spk_0 pick a very different perspective than one that you own. Constraint plus perspective could be
spk_0 creativity on steroids. Shout out to Jack Cornfield, Buddhist teacher and PhD in clinical psychology
spk_0 for that quote, despair, being a failure of imagination, one of my podcast regulars.
spk_0 Last part here, two minute favor, if this newsletter sparked an idea or a laugh, refer a few friends
spk_0 or maybe enemies where you want to clog up their inbox. Who knows? If you do, you can get access to
spk_0 a capital raising playbook, a climate funding library or a one-on-one strategy call
spk_0 with me. As you know, mill ads or sponsors here, just us building the climate
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