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Marina Mabrey Creates Chaos in the Kitchen
Join Dan Sousa and Morgan Bowling in the test kitchen as they welcome WNBA star Marina Mabrey for a delightful conversation about food, cooking, and the joy of grilling. Discover her unique approach t...
Marina Mabrey Creates Chaos in the Kitchen
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Most people aren't gonna go in the kitchen and like,
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look like Bobby Flay.
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Like, no, which, I mean, I've seen him a little bit chaotic
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during those shows.
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I'm not gonna lie, but like, anyways, like.
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Like, calling out Bobby Flay.
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Yeah, hold on Bobby, like, I can't see anything.
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He's just gonna go on.
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I'm Dan Sousa and today I'm joined by my co-host,
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Morgan Bowling and we are in the test kitchen.
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Morgan, so fun to hang out with you anytime.
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I love it when there's a microphone in cameras, honest though.
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Exactly.
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And I always look directly to your ears
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because you have always really fun earrings on
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and I'm curious what they're about today.
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So the little pastas today.
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Oh, cute.
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They're like little bow ties.
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Yep, little bow ties, exactly.
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Yeah, I always try to pair them with a guest when we do this.
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So I feel like there's a little thread
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between this and our guest today.
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So do you just have like this collection at home
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and it's like in the kitchen?
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Because it's all food related earrings.
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All food related.
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It's all over the place.
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I'm not a post-organized, but I do have like multiple boxes
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that have like, I use pill bottles.
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So like are not pill bottles,
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but little pill cases that people use for like Monday through Friday.
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And your earrings are in there.
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But your earrings are in there very strategically arranged.
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Yeah, I have to do them for everything
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when we film any video.
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I try to pair it.
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So it's just grown over the years.
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That's really awesome.
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I love that.
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I guess I didn't know you were doing it all the time, but.
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I do it a lot.
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It has a lot of joy to life.
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You know, like life's sometimes complicated.
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Like have fun earrings.
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Yeah, I love that.
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You had so much joy to everything you're working on.
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And so I don't know about that.
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But yeah, I have some fun ones.
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I've got like, yeah, I've got charcoal grills.
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I've got bags of charcoal.
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I've got these.
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I've got fish.
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I don't know if you actually wanted a whole list,
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but I could keep going.
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I've got corn.
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Send me the database.
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I'd love to look.
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I'd love to see what's in there.
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Yeah, I'm sure.
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And I'll keep my eye out if I'm traveling.
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And I see some cool food earrings.
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Thank you.
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Except gifts.
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Yeah, I'll track those down.
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So, and you bring a joy to so many things.
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I was watching an episode of the the grill next door.
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Your brand new show that you can check out
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on Zumo right now.
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And it's like your energy for grilling.
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I think I've said this so many times now
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to so many people is like Morgan likes grilling more
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than I like anything in the world.
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Like, you're so passionate about it.
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And I'm curious, like, so it's getting cooler now.
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I love this time of year.
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It's much, much cozier.
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Are you like you're an all year grilling?
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Oh, yeah, definitely.
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And I know you don't even care.
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Yeah, like I've definitely grilled in the snow.
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And sometimes actually I snowboard.
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And like I've taken my grill in the back of my car
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up to the mountain.
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We tailgate with my grill.
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We'll make like grilled pizza or like smoked wings
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and like do it on the mountain after.
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Like I'm like my friends keep going
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and keep boarding in skiing.
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And I'm like, oh, we did it at the grill.
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I gotta get the chimney going.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Come hang with me when you are done.
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Awesome.
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I bet that smells so good.
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Yeah, it's fun.
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Like cold out in the smoky grill.
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Well, like I caked out once.
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So.
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Yeah.
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Well, so I don't quite have the energy
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or whatever it takes to do that sort of thing.
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This time of year, I'm like in such a cozy mode.
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I have a little fireplace in my place.
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And I look at it not going.
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And I'm looking for like simple cozy meals.
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I feel like you always have your finger on the pulse
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of what's happening in the ATK app.
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Like what are the new recipes that sort of fit that mold?
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And I'm curious if you have any suggestions for me.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So one of my favorites is this one that is coming out
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in our dinner tonight series.
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And so it's roasted tomato soup with these cheddar croutons.
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So you actually like take a piece of bread.
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You freeco both sides with cheddar cheese.
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So you press cheese into both sides.
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Yep.
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And then you see right.
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And so it gets like crispy on both sides.
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You create this like piece of bread
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that has like a cheese crust.
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And then you cut that up and that's the croutons
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for the tomato soup.
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That's brilliant.
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Yeah.
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So it's like grilled cheese, but like a little easier.
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Maybe it's like easier.
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It's just different inside out.
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Inside out delicious crispy grilled cheese.
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That's so brilliant.
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Obviously like bread and cheese in tomato
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is such a good combination.
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But I bet those croutons actually probably don't get soggy
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very quickly on the soup, right?
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Because like that cheesy coating is going to protect it
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a lot more than just like crispy bread.
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That's a really good point.
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I've never like had them sit very long
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because they're the best part of the soup.
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But yeah, so I'm sure that's true.
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They don't sit for more than a second.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That sounds awesome.
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So that's the roasted tomato soup with like crispy.
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Cheddar crisp.
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Yeah, with cheddar croutons.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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And that's my list.
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Yeah, we also have a soy sauce chicken noodle soup
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that Maggie came out with, one of our residents.
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It's so savory and good.
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It's like you poach chicken thighs in a chicken broth
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and soy sauce mixture.
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And then there's these Chinese wheat noodles in there.
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So it's like, I mean, it's like chicken noodle soup
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but like very savory.
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It's really fun.
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And like it's, I think it's like 40 minutes
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to put it together with like prepping everything.
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Really good.
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That is right up my alley.
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Yeah.
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I love that.
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I'm such a chicken thigh fan.
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I think I probably preach into the choir here.
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But when I have the choice of like breast or thighs,
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thighs are just so rich.
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I feel like you also can't like mess up chicken thighs.
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Yeah.
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You poach them, take them out.
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They're going to be super juicy in the soup.
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Exactly.
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Like I feel like you can like, you don't have to be as hands on.
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Like I mean, on occasion, I'll cook a chicken breast
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but like you have to pay attention.
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So much more chicken thigh, you can just be like,
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all right, I'm going to let it roll.
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And you know what I've noticed is,
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it's very easy to buy the boneless skinless ones now.
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Like everyone has them all the time.
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So you don't do any prep work or anything like that.
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Yeah.
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So that sounds really good.
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So you have the noodles and the chicken
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and soy sauce adding that like richness to it.
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Yeah, it's okay.
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A couple of soups to add to the menu.
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I love it.
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No, well, soup season.
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Yeah, it is soup season.
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I'm a soup year round kind of guy.
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Oh, interesting.
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Even hot weather?
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Even hot weather.
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Yeah, I do.
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It's just like, it's always been the most like comforting thing.
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I was sick recently and I found myself just making like
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so much soup.
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Yeah.
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And but like it comforts me in a way that like,
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I take me right back.
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I'm like, I want to watch like Sesame Street.
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Oh, that's so cute.
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It's like the connection is so strong.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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So it's good when you're like that,
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but it's also good when you're like,
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exciting good food too.
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Yeah, and I think it's like a little spin on classics
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or something like that.
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There's something nice about it.
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Yeah, I love that.
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Okay, awesome.
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So in the A2K app right now,
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we've got our roasted tomato soup
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and our soy sauce chicken noodle soup.
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Yep.
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Those are two great ones.
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All right, we're going to send people over there.
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Check those out in our app or on the website.
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We've got to get to our guest right now
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because we've never had anyone like this
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in the test kitchen.
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This is really, really special.
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And I'm so curious what her like perspective on food is
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because she's not a traditional food person,
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not a traditional culinary person,
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but I know she's got really strong opinions.
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Yeah.
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So today's guest is a WNBA star
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who got her start with the Los Angeles Sparks
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and then she moved to Dallas and Chicago
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before finding her home at the Connecticut Sun.
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She has a cooking series called
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Cooking with Maibri on her social media platforms.
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Please welcome to the test kitchen, Marina Maibri.
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Marina, welcome to the test kitchen.
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I'm so excited to have you here today.
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Thank you.
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I'm excited to be here.
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You are?
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Yes.
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Because I know you're normally on a basketball court.
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You come to a test kitchen.
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Yeah.
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But you're excited to be here.
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Yes.
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This is my element too.
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It is, right?
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That's the basketball court.
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I like to get in the kitchen, makes it up.
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You totally do.
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And we're going to dig into that.
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You have a really fun TikTok cooking show.
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But before that, I had this thing where I like to pour a tea
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for each of my guests on the show.
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And what I try to do is pick a tea
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that I think relates to them in some way.
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Sometimes I nail it and it's like a perfect,
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like no rim shot, just perfect in.
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I mean, he's horrible sports analogies today.
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Sometimes I don't get it right.
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But so today I picked this tea that is a really beautiful green tea
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from Bhutan.
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Now Bhutan doesn't make a ton of tea,
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so it's special in that way.
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But even more special than that, it's actually
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38 women tea makers that run the entire outfit and do all of the tea,
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which is really unheard of in the tea world.
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And so I think what you're doing in the WMVA is incredible.
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I think the WMVA is incredible in general.
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So it's a very special tea,
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within a specialty for a special person.
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Oh, this is sweet.
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I think you might have nailed it.
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Here's a little tea cup for you.
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Thank you.
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I will refl it as many times as you want.
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Here's one for Morgan.
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Thank you.
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All right, well, let's cheers and taste our very special tea.
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Ooh, that is good.
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That is good.
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I like that.
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I like that.
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You nailed it.
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I didn't even have to taste it.
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I knew it.
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Wow.
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So it's a green tea, which means that it's sort
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of minimally processed.
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So it's picked.
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And sometimes there's a little bit of manipulation of the leaves
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and then dried.
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So you get a really clean flavor to it.
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But there's a little bit of grassiness to it
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and a little bit of that earthiness, which is really nice.
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I love that.
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I get a little of grassiness.
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Do you drink a lot of green tea?
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No, I don't drink a lot of green tea.
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But honestly, I don't usually like green tea,
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but this is really good.
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I like, I kind of like the authenticity of it.
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It doesn't taste like chemical's process, stuff like that.
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So I like that about that.
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Yeah.
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And it's just these, it's this plant.
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You pick these leaves off, do a little bit of processing.
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And then they're like, they are what they are,
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which I think is so special about tea.
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So the other part of this is, I pour the tea,
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but then you have to spill some tea too.
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So I'm curious, what is the hot gossip going on right now
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in your world that we should know about?
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Oh, goodness gracious.
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Where should it start?
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How about on the court?
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Yeah, on the court.
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I think just gossip around me as a player this year,
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as it relates to last year and just the different role
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that I'm playing.
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And I think that a lot of people have had a lot to say about it.
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But I think that it's important to know that one,
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I have a brand outside of basketball.
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And the time that I did spend these seven years playing
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in the league, just because maybe there
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has been some challenges this season,
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doesn't take away from the person and the player
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that I've built these past years.
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So I think that's tea, because I still am who I am,
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regardless of some struggles in one season that will come
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to light eventually when we are successful.
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I love that.
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I love that.
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And I think it speaks to your authenticity,
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which is what really comes through in your cooking show,
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which I want to dig into.
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But yeah, that you're a real person and there's
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going to be ups and downs.
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How do you deal with the pressure cooker element
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of being a professional athlete and all of the eyes
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and ears on you?
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I mean, I think I got what I asked for.
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When you're manifesting in your creating these dreams
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for yourself as a young girl, you say,
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I want to be one of the best players in the world.
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I want to be in unrivaled where all the players are the best
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of the best.
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But when you're wishing for those things,
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you don't think about the other things that come with it,
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which is people talking about you.
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As soon as you mess up, it's everywhere.
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As soon as you're not the same exact player as you were
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when you were having a ton of success,
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they start to judge you and stuff.
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So I think that comes with it and this is what I asked for.
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So if I want to enjoy the fruits of what I wanted to manifest,
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I also need to be able to take the other side of it.
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So I think I'm in the other side of it right now.
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But I'm going to stay strong.
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And because I know that that light is coming to
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the things that I manifested.
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I love that.
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That's like real resilience there.
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Yeah.
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I know.
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Thanks.
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I know.
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So I feel like watching, so your cooking series
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is cooking with Maybree.
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And you can watch it on TikTok.
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And it's so fun.
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Sometimes you're cooking with your sister.
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It's so fun.
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Also, I also have it on YouTube.
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And there, for me, there's like, I see no fear.
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You're like, I'm going to make this and try this.
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And I know we work with home cooks all the time.
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And there's sometimes like trepidation.
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Like, what if I, this doesn't work or this doesn't work?
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I feel like you just go straight into it
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and you're going to make the thing.
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And you're on the fly making changes and stuff like that.
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Is that representative of sort of who you are?
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And how you approach like basketball
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or are you like different person on the court
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and in the kitchen?
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There's a quote that I've lived by for like,
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since I was maybe like 10 years old.
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And it was like, be fearless in the pursuit
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of what sets your soul on fire.
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And I've lived by that forever.
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And when I got injured, I unrivaled.
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I think that a lot of myself worth was in basketball.
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And so when that got taken away for an extended period of time,
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I needed to find another way to kind of like spark that fire again.
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So when I got in the kitchen and I started cooking things,
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I was creating the same kind of chaos
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that I create on the court offensively.
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And I think that that's kind of a way to describe my game
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because when I get going, I think it's kind of hard to stop.
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And you try to do these schemes, but no one really knows
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what I'm going to do because I actually don't know what I'm going to do.
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Until I just shoot it.
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I don't know.
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Oh, wow.
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Didn't I come in?
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So I think that I got that same kind of joy from cooking too.
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And I know I haven't been like posting as many videos lately
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just because of how the season went.
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And just like also prioritizing me sometimes.
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But it gave me the same joy.
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So that's why I started cooking.
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That's so fun.
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It is so cool.
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I love that like fearless, that fearless approach to it
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and just like diving right into it.
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And I also love the chaos.
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Like I love the iconic.
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Because I feel like that's freeing for people.
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I think people get so scared of cooking.
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And they're like, it can't be chaotic.
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And I'm like, it is often.
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One of my nicknames at work can be Morgnato instead of Morgan.
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Wait, what is it?
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Morgnato.
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I think that's why I've been like a little bit of a kid.
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Sometimes a little crazy.
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I've never heard that.
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I love that.
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You have to go.
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We need to work together more closely.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You can work next to me in the kitchen and you'll get it.
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But I think it can be chaotic.
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But that's OK.
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Like it's fine.
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It's like joyful.
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So yeah.
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I think that's what makes it relatable.
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Most people aren't going to go in the kitchen
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and like look like Bobby Flay.
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Like no.
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Which I mean, I've seen him a little bit chaotic during those
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shows.
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I'm not going to lie.
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But like anyways, like calling up Bobby Flay.
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I hold on Bobby.
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It's fire.
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He's struggling.
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But just most people, even when it comes to makeup,
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like when I started doing the makeup,
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I started doing the hair, the outfits.
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It was a disaster until it got to the final result.
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And I think that that kind of speaks to like a lot of times
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how people end up in jobs, like how people end up
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as MVP of the league or whatever it is in your life.
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It never goes in a straight line up.
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Like it's something's going to take a wild turn somewhere.
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And I think like just being able to put out fires
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and be like, no, okay, like all right,
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I'm going to do this to just making sure that the final result
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is always in the top of my mind.
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So I never lose that.
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So if somebody knocks me off track or I don't know,
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I don't know how to cut the onion like something,
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I'm still, that onion is going in the pan.
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So like I think just, just sticking to what,
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what you put your heart set on really.
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Yeah, that's what you seem like such a great guiding force.
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And so this was about, is it about a year ago
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that you really started cooking like this in earnest
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or at least showing the world that you were doing this?
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Yeah, maybe a little less than a year ago.
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I started in like probably February
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because it didn't really hit me that my calf
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was going to take a really long time to heal
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until your body starts to tell you and you're like,
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oh wow, like I'm really not getting back on that court
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anytime soon and I want to feel fulfilled
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in a different way.
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And also feel like basketball isn't an end all be all
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and I think that it's also helped me to perform better.
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And I know that maybe it's not showing right this second,
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but I know like inside my heart when I go out there
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that it feels different.
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So yeah, that makes more sense to me.
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And so where did you even get the idea to do it?
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I know your sister's in some of those.
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Is this like a family thing in terms of your influences
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with food?
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Not really, honestly, I'm not gonna lie.
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My family's not like a huge food family.
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Like my mom eats like salads and protein shakes all day.
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Challenge.
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Love you, mom.
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Oh, I got them killing my mom.
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So Bobby, play and your mom.
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I'm a analyst, but I don't.
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So here we are.
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But like I know my brother really likes to travel
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and like try different foods, different cultures.
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I played overseas for seven years.
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So I've introduced my family to very different types of food,
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types of styles of foods, types of ways of eating.
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What's a dish that you kind of brought back?
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Cause you were in like Latvia, Australia, Turkey, I think, right?
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Yeah, in Turkey, I can't remember exactly how you say it,
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but it's like they're like chickpeas kind of in like a tomato sauce
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with rice pilaf and they put like a deal cucumber yogurt dressing
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on top.
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Sounds incredible.
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It was so my gosh, I ate it like every day.
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Really?
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Yeah, it was so good.
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And you do make it now at home?
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Yeah, like one of my teammates gave me a recipe and she's Turkish.
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So like her family's made it all the time.
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So I don't make it like her shout out of Senna.
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I'm not as good as you.
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But like she showed me how to make it.
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So sometimes I'll make it.
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And just like down the line, my sister came to see me in Turkey.
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I had her try like they're really famous.
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Like they're red meat like the Bob's like hamburger type that they don't call it that.
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But just for them to like kind of get a sense of like what real authentic Turkish food tastes
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like and how in America they really aren't prioritizing the culture of food and like what
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that experience should be like.
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Yeah, yeah, traveling is such an amazing way to open your eyes to different ways of doing
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it.
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Like even if you've had a certain type of dish like how they could get different different
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techniques and stuff like that.
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I can't even eat no key here anymore.
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Like I went to I put in North Italy and.
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Oh, geez.
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Yeah.
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And they had this farm where they grew the potatoes right there and made the no key and
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they bring you like this huge bowl of no key with like different like duck sauce, deer
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sauce, like different ones.
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I can't eat no key here anymore.
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They ruined it.
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Yeah.
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I would ruin it for you.
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Yeah, but I was happy that I got to see what like real food tastes like.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, so in your sort of rotation, your cooking rotation like is Niyoki in there?
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Is this Turkish dish in there or like what's your sort of like go to my go to I mean it
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depends like what kind of season I'm in what what I'm doing nutritionally.
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But like my go to is like some type of ground beef with rice and like peppers and onions
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and it's just like quick easy.
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I usually add Greek yogurt to it or like something like that and honey for protein.
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But good yogurt, not that.
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Oh, yeah.
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Sorry.
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But like also I kind of like mix it up.
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Like I love chicken parm.
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I love like pauses with cream sauce like my favorite.
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My stomach hates it, but I love it.
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So I have to be kind of like cognizant.
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But yeah, I'm a big pasta girl.
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I was going to ask that.
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So like I mean eating as a professional athlete that is like so focused on performance and
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stuff versus I think the way that I eat is much more driven by like who I want to eat
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that that sounds good.
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Sounds like there's some tension there.
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How do you sort of do that?
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And does it change when you're in the off season versus when you're playing?
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Yeah.
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I think like when I'm playing I'm a little bit less strict with that stuff just because
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like it's not in a lot of time.
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You're always on the road.
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And you kind of just like trust yourself to try to make sure you get some type of micro
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micro.
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That's sort of balance of match.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, my grand chance.
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Somehow to fill that void.
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But like in the off season, I'm a lot more like diligent just because like you know you
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want to be ready in tip top shape to go when the season starts.
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So I try to limit like the heavier dishes to like maybe like twice a week, which I'm
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going to for athletes.
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You kind of can't afford to have a little bit more.
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So like it's not that big of a deal, but I do try to find recipes that I really like
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that are healthy and high protein, but don't taste like a meat and grass.
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Yeah, that's a matter of eating grass.
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That's important.
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Yeah.
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And I don't like vegetables like that.
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You don't like vegetables like like when they're grass.
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I must be honest.
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Like I really hate vegetables.
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Sorry.
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I hate.
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Finally, we're getting into the real real.
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I'll tell you, I'll tell us a couple of broccoli's in there.
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Broccoli's just thrown in there.
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I'll dice up the carrots like tiny.
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Yeah, I'll be like, okay, chuck them in the right place.
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I don't see them.
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Yeah, so you sort of like try to hide them in there.
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Yeah, I'm the smoothie girl.
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Like sometimes you just kind of like put some fruit, some protein powder and then like
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a huge thing of spinach and yeah, like drown it in honey.
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Yeah.
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So that high, getting your spinach, we don't eat spinach today.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, smoothly you can cover all manner of sins.
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You can just get everything in there.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, I gotta be careful because as soon as it starts tasting like grass I'm done.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's so fair.
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Well so you're not a big vegetable fan.
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I have heard that you are changing gears a little bit.
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A big fan of fruity pebbles.
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Is that correct?
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Yeah, I really love fruity pebbles.
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I can eat a whole box.
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Really?
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Wait, so are you like a big cereal person in general or like specifically fruity pebbles
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is the one?
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I am a cereal girlie for sure.
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Anytime there's no food in the house, that's fine.
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Tells me, box of cereal would be good to go.
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I feel like this is a thing among chefs too.
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I don't know if you feel this way.
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I feel like most chefs I know like what eat cereal aggressively.
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Like I can't keep much cereal in my house because I'll eat a box of cereal in like three
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days.
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It'll just go.
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Yeah, I also don't keep it around for that reason.
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There's definitely a chef thing of like when you're working on the line in restaurants,
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like you're prepping food, you're smelling food, you're around it all day and you go
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home and you just want like the opposite of it almost.
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Yeah.
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So like cold milk and cereal and it's dessert and you're sort of good of ad.
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Yeah, I'm a sucker for like before the game, quick bowl of cereal, maybe after the game.
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Yeah.
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And it's almost kind of like the same.
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That's a little wild.
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I'm usually crashing out or not time for the cereal, but I think it's like the same with
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the kitchen though.
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Like you as come home and it's like I don't want all that is the same like after I get
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off the court.
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Yeah.
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It's like sometimes I don't want that huge big meal like it's gross to me.
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So just like a nice little captain crunch like fruity pebbles, oes, try to be.
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Oes, oh my god.
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I haven't thought about oes in so long.
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I still buy them religiously.
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You can buy them everywhere still?
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I have to.
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I have to go.
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I have not everywhere, but like they have my stop and shop Walmart.
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Gosh.
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They get some oes in the stomachs.
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I have to go like you're not ever at the restaurant stop and shop Walmart.
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Oh, I'm not.
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Market basket.
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You can get them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, they're not at Costco, but I hear you.
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I'm sorry.
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You okay?
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So speaking of Costco, I seen you do some epic Costco runs.
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Do you like hit all the tasting tables, the sample tables and like what's your what's
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your go to items at Costco?
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You buy.
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Well, first off, when you go to Costco, you need to have priorities or in line or you're
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done.
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Yeah, you're going to be overwhelmed or simulated lost buying entirely too much.
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So it's for me, I'm hitting the samples first because while straight here, I honestly,
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I really like Costco for their high protein options that are already readily available.
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So like they have like grilled chicken skewers.
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Those are really good, quick, easy.
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They have these noodles that I really like.
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They're like udon noodles and I will get like maybe like eggs or like ground beef kind
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of like put that all together.
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And then they also have like a bunch of pre-made stuff.
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So I like to go with the pre-made and then add my own like for times I don't have a lot
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of time like rotisserie chicken and stuff like that.
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So a lot of my Costco runs are for high protein, quick, easy meals.
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That and then I never buy anything in bulk at Costco.
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I know that's absolutely insane because that's the point of it.
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But like there's zero shot I'm taking out of my car.
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It's getting ordered by Amazon.
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Yeah, okay.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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Can you really buy that much individual stuff at Costco though?
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Isn't that the whole point?
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Yeah, it is the whole point.
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And I've completely missed it.
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But you found your niche there.
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Yeah, but like I mean, you're having a good time.
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Yeah, but I'll buy like the big box of the noodles and stuff because I'll eat that
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every day for like a couple of days.
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So that'll be gone like the grilled chicken skewers.
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I'll have four or five of them a day like that's.
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Yeah.
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You know, so those things are good for me in bulk.
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But in the fruit like I for some reason will not stop eating clementines.
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So I'll just buy a couple of those like grades of like that.
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So yeah, I don't buy that much at Costco, but like the experience is great.
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And all the high protein is there.
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So go to Costco guys.
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It's worth it.
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Shout out to Costco.
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I feel like you could actually beyond like your show provide a lot of guidance
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for people that are trying to eat a lot more protein because I think this is like on.
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Everyone seems to be talking about I want more protein.
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And this is something that feels like you've sort of figured out a process for yourself.
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Yeah, I think it's really it's all about discipline.
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And I don't have all the discipline.
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I'm not going to say here and I think I do.
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But I think when you prioritize it and you just kind of like,
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you know what, I'm going to start the day with protein.
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Usually if you start the day with protein, like you got a good chance maybe
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ending the day with protein.
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Yeah.
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So I definitely could do something like that though because like I do have tips and tricks
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for like trying to get that protein in when you're on the road or just like in general.
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So yeah, I probably should do that.
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Yeah, you should do it.
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Yeah, great.
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I really love it.
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Yeah, they did.
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They did when I did one video about it.
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I'm curious.
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You're not cooking this meal.
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You can have anyone cook it for you.
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What is what's your last meal on earth?
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And who would you want to be having that meal with?
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This is okay.
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This is like I love pizza but like don't tell me my last meal.
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Like, not really.
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You could probably have an app and a main if it makes it easier.
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All right, but that's good idea.
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All right, I'm going to go with fried mozzarella sticks in triangle shape.
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Yeah, need that.
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Yeah, the triangle shape.
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So we pause for a second.
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Yeah, why the triangle shape?
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What's the?
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I think the cheese pull is just outrageous.
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And yeah, I love that.
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I know.
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I'm like actually like I'm like our recipe is.
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Is rectangle is we need to be developing.
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I'm trying to hold on because we have you have this in a many places.
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I don't.
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I don't have any time.
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I know here's a triangle mozzarella stick.
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It's getting ordered by me.
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And are you asking at the table when you see mat sticks?
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Are you like what shape are they?
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Yes, you are.
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Are they triangle?
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No, not for me.
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Nothing.
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Wow.
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Actually, completely pass on them.
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So I'll get an order of triangle mozzarella sticks with hot honey barbeque sauce.
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No marinara, please.
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And a side of ranch.
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I love this.
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I know.
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I love that.
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Specifically chicken egg rolls, please.
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Okay, so first you have and then you're having chicken egg rolls.
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That's like your second course.
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No, that's my second appetizer.
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That's like an appetizer.
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We're about to get going.
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And then can I get steak freets with crispy french fries with extra salt or side of
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ranch, please?
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In a garden salad with no tomatoes, extra cheese and ranch dressing.
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Yeah.
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So can I get a surely temple?
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I like this meal.
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I'm like, let's do it.
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I love this meal.
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Wow.
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So there's a there's a through line here that is obvious that is ranch dressing.
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It kind of ties the whole meal together.
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I love ranch.
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What's your connection to it?
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Is it always been just like your dip dressing of choice?
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I think since I was a kid, I just like, I didn't go anywhere without that side of ranch.
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But a specific ranch.
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I like chilies ranch.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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And somebody else has really good ranch.
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And I want to say maybe it's...
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Canes?
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Canes?
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No, no, no, sorry.
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Don't do that.
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Wings stop.
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Wings stop.
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Okay.
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I feel like this should be a video of you taste testing ranches around the world.
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Yeah.
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Ranch is absolutely undefeated.
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So yeah.
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Taste test videos do really, really well.
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Yeah, yeah.
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We have a show called the taste test.
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We have a show called the taste test.
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Yeah, I do call it now.
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It's ranch review time.
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Yeah, that's a good idea.
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I should have ranch review.
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Yeah, mix it up a little bit.
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I'm also like, I bet a lot of them were using Hidden Valley, but I don't know.
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No, this is not Hidden Valley.
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It's super.
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Uh-huh.
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It's super and a good way.
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Yeah, I like it like that.
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I don't want to dip my ranch and it'd be like a blob.
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Like I need it to...
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You needed to come up and did you...
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You didn't really get to a dessert, did you?
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I love donuts.
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I love crumble cookies.
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Wait, what was the second one?
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Crumble cookies.
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Oh, yeah, crumble cookies.
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I do love them, but on certain ones like pink sugar chilled.
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Um, yeah, it's real really good.
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I have the fridge or the freezer.
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The fridge.
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Okay.
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Um, so yeah, I would either get a pink sugar crumble cookie
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or I would get like a freshly baked white chocolate macadamia
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with extra white chocolates and less macadamia.
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You know what I love about your entire menu here
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is like the specificity of it.
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Like you are a person that knows exactly what you like
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and um, that's sometimes hard for people to get to, you know?
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And I feel like you have no guilt about it at all.
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You're just like, this is what I want.
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This is what I want.
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This is what I want.
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I love them.
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Yeah, I'm like a creature of habit.
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Like every time we get on the plane to go,
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like they always like, oh, what kind of drink do you want?
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I will have a um,
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club soda with three lemons and three ice cubes.
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Like, it's every time.
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And the lady always just like,
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three and three, yep.
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Yep.
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Thank you.
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It's called a three and three.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's really really good.
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The right degree of cold when I have my three ice cubes.
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It's perfect.
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That's much better.
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That's really good.
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Yeah, so you're getting so much vitamin C in that mixture,
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which is awesome.
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Yeah, um-hmm.
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Basically having vegetables.
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Yeah.
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Basically, vegetables.
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I mean, so you, so you've done a lot of coffee reviews.
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How did that start for you?
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Have you always been a coffee fan
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and then um, what's your favorite out of the, out of the coffees you've tried?
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Yeah, I think that like I've had some really good conversations
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and really good like relationship building, um, through coffee.
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Like, oh, it's good to coffee and I get to know somebody.
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Um, and my dad kind of put me on that.
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Yeah.
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Um, there's this place by my house in New Jersey called Turnstile.
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They have like amazing coffee.
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And when I went overseas,
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um, I got to try all kinds of different coffee.
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Like, um, I would say that it at least still has the best coffee in my opinion.
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Yeah.
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And I really wasn't a fan of Turkish coffee.
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It was a little too strong for me.
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Um, very strong.
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Yeah.
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But I'm always willing to like try it and stuff.
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And just like different countries have different
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vibes around coffee.
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And I think that um, it brings people together.
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So whenever I like meet somebody or like I want to
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establish a relationship or something,
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I always say like, do you want to get some coffee?
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So um, as the years went on,
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I just feel like I got like kind of snobby for good coffee,
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especially being like in Europe and um,
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having that place by my house.
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That was so good.
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So I was just going around.
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I know other people really like it and it brings everyone together.
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Like I said, so like whenever somebody finds out,
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like they can have a good coffee, like they'll go and get it.
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So, um, I'm the same way.
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So I figured I would share with other people just because finding a good coffee spot
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is not easy, honestly, especially in America, United States.
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Sorry.
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Um, and I think that I appreciate when I see other people post good coffee spot.
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So I just joined in.
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I love that.
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It's giving back.
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I found a good one and you pass it on.
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I sure share the wealth.
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So you mentioned New Jersey.
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That's where you grew up.
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So I have a, an A B question for you.
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Are you, are you from the part of New Jersey that calls it Taylor Ham or the part of the,
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the state that calls it pork roll?
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Pork roll.
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Okay.
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And do you like, do you like pork roll?
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Love it.
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Love it.
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I feel like you can't be born there and grow up without like you have to love it.
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You know, I for the longest, I didn't eat it because my mom would always say like,
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oh, it's gross.
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Like, and my mom doesn't like it.
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It's like a little too salty and like fatty for some.
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Uh, um, salacious.
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Like, I quite some protein shakes.
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So I get it.
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But, um, I don't remember.
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I tried it one day.
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I think it was like on the school lunch menu and I was like, this is so good.
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So, um, yeah, I would describe it to people that don't know what it is.
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Um, it's kind of like, I would say it's a mix between bacon and Canadian bacon.
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Yeah.
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Like, it's the Canadian bacon shape with that kind of texture, but has more of like a bacon,
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like, uh, smoked bacon taste.
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Yeah.
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But if I had to, if I had to choose, I would say that pork roll tastes better than bacon.
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You're not like bacon.
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That's the most New Jersey thing you've ever said.
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Yeah, but I would never just eat pork roll.
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Like, oh, like straight.
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Yeah, like, I'm gonna get eggs in pork roll.
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Like, no.
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So how do you eat it?
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Uh, pork roll, egg and cheese on a bagel.
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It's almost like one word, pork roll, egg and cheese, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like, uh, something else.
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Like, I would never just put it on my plate.
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You need it.
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That's gross.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Something you don't want to look too close to.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It needs to be like within the layers.
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So, uh, in July, you were at a Red Sox game at Fenway, best park to watch a baseball game.
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Yeah.
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Really good hot dogs.
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Did you have a hot dog where you were there?
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I did.
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What did you top it with?
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Are you like, uh, this can be controversial.
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Are you like a catch up person, a must-reperson?
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Uh, I'm sorry to break this you, but I really hate catch up.
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Like, I really don't like catch up.
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It's gross.
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I don't want to end my presence.
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I don't pick it up.
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Like, if someone has catch up around you, you're like, get it away from me.
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Use it somewhere else.
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Just catch up right behind you.
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I need a different table.
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Well, I would say, like, the purists are, say, like, no catch up on hot dogs.
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So you're not in the, in the wrong right now.
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Yeah, but I hate mustard.
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I hate relish.
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I hate what else people put on a hot dog, like.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes like chopped onions.
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Yeah.
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I guess I probably would have done that.
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I just didn't know you could do that.
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Yeah.
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So what did you put on your hot dog?
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Ranch.
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That fits the tracks, yeah.
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Threw line just keeps coming through.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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I mean, when in doubt, when in doubt, ranch it out.
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I'm in the mood.
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You should coin that before more.
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Before I do, yeah.
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You should take that.
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Um, that's awesome.
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I love that.
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It's got to be so savory and, and sort of rich.
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It was really good.
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I hate the whole thing.
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Well, so a couple things.
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One is I have a cookbook for you that we're going to give you that's called the everyday
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athlete.
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So we did this book specifically focused on athletes and, um, you know, the foods that
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help them perform their best.
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Oh, we have that for you.
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But before I give it to you, we're going to move into this third segment of the show
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that I call the horse neck test.
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So instead of showing you like, you know, inkblots to kind of psychoanalyze you, I ask you
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to use some funny food questions that we can like dig in a little bit more.
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I like the tea pinky up.
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Oh, yeah.
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That's a fancy knife.
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In fact, I do that like on the bench with my water bottle.
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Really?
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That's our watching for the bench shot to see.
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Like, she is so posh on the bench.
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I know.
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So fancy.
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So mad and so like, still demure.
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Um, so I want to start off with just a simple coffee question.
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Are you an iced coffee or hot coffee person?
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Um, I go through phases like I would, I want to say like right now I'm iced because like,
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I walked in with iced coffee.
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So like, wow, I say hot.
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But sometimes I get hot.
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Like it depends.
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Sometimes if I wake up in the morning and I'm cold, then I go with the hot coffee.
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But if I wake up and it's like blazing hot out, or I'm irritated, I didn't go with the iced coffee.
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If you're irritated, you know, put yourself on ice.
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When I'm feeling like poised and calm and loving, like, okay, hot coffee.
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Like cozy.
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Yeah, let me fit the vibe.
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But when I'm like, yeah, wake up on one, like, let me cool down.
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Yeah.
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So you came with iced coffee today.
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So you were really good at charging.
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Yeah, I was really, really hyped.
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What about you Morgan?
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Are you an iced or hot?
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Hot.
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Hot.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, I'm better.
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Yeah, no, all year.
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I feel like it's like anti-New England too.
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I feel like people here like love iced coffee and like the dead of winter on the opposite.
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Like it can be like a hundred degrees and I'm like hot coffee.
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Interesting.
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Yeah, I kind of go seasonally but I lean more iced coffee.
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Yeah.
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It's like for me, it's also about caffeine and I can like just drink a lot faster.
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Yeah, I think it's safer sometimes.
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Like when I get a bad hot coffee, like it's terrible.
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Yeah.
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If I got a bad iced coffee, it's like, okay.
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Yeah, you taste a little bit less.
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Yeah, it's so cold.
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Yeah, it's a little more ice.
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Yeah, water down.
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Yeah, I'm trying to.
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Are you a corner on the cob fan?
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It's a vegetable, so I don't know.
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It's like big and New Jersey, isn't it?
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Corn, like, you guys have a great corn.
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We have great corn.
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Those are great corn.
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Of all things.
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Just looking like.
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We have great corn.
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What are you talking about?
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I mean, yeah, like if my dad makes it on the grill or something, I'll eat it.
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You'll eat it.
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With a lot of butter on it.
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But.
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Do you know your corner on the cob eating style?
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This is a thing that I'm obsessed with.
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There's like different types based on how you actually eat it.
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There's like the typewriter that goes like back and forth.
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Okay, I'm the typewriter.
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You are.
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You just know I read the bad.
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But I also won't eat it unless I have those little corn things.
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Oh, I love those little things.
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Like, do you know what she's talking about?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's like twirl it.
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We had this growing up for sure.
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And I don't know why I don't have, yeah.
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I should have them on my own, too.
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Yeah, I can't eat it without them.
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Especially because I put so much butter on it.
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It's like crispy.
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You're gonna slip out of your hands.
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Yeah.
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And are yours like shaped like little corns?
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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That's the proper.
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I really don't really feel like they can't be shaped like anything else.
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I've seen other ones, but yeah, the corn is, that's what it should be.
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Yeah.
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Or are you guys corn on the coffins?
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It was the corn.
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Oh, turning in around of it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But I'm a log runner.
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So like, I go around it as opposed to side to side.
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Yeah, I'm a typewriter.
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I'm a fan of the Esther.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The hamster's probably more like it.
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But yeah, you can categorize the whole world into like, you know, five different styles of corn on the cob eating.
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So.
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Okay.
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Well, it's like something new every day.
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Yeah.
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Does she travel around just pay attention?
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Yeah.
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I'll watch you guys eat corn.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I just watched people eat corn exactly.
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That's what we hope.
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Okay.
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Will you finish the sentence for me when life hands you lemons?
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When life hands me lemons, like, do I not, is this a true question?
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Like, you make lemonade?
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Is that it?
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Well, so that's like, that's sort of the classic thing is like, well, like, for me, but it's open-ended.
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Like, yeah, like life hands you lemons.
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What do you do?
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I put them in my club soda.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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You're flight with three of them.
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Perfect, Andrew.
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That's what we're doing.
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I love that so much.
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Well, awesome.
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You've been so inspirational.
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I love your sort of fearless, like, go after it, whether it's in the kitchen or on the court.
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Thanks so much for coming through the Test Kitchen.
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Thanks for having me.
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It's awesome.
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Oh, my cookbook.
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And here's your cookbook.
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So the everyday athlete cookbook from America's Test Kitchen, our tagline is fuel your active
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life.
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And I know, look, you're cooking all kinds of stuff, but we thought that'd be more inspiration
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for you.
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No, thank you guys so much.
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I'm going to use this and hopefully I can shout you guys out when I make the video.
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Yeah, totally.
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We'd love to see how it comes out.
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Yeah, I already see some stuff.
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It's going to cause me some trouble.
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It could cause you trouble.
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Yeah, for sure.
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You're like, I'd had ranch to this one.
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Like one day we'll soon catch up.
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That's never happening.
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But yeah, skip that.
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Yeah, you can cut that out.
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It'll be really fun.
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I'm really happy you guys gave this to me because I've really been looking for meals that are
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like healthy, high protein, but also good.
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Awesome.
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Look out.
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I'm going to make a video.
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That's great.
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Well, and good luck with the next season and we'll be watching.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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Thanks for having me.
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See you next time.