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The Guy Who Took Drag Racing Off the Streets

In this episode of 'Pass Gas,' host Joe Weber dives into the fascinating story of Wally Parks, the visionary behind the National Hot Rod Association (NHRA). Discover how Parks transformed th...

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spk_0 This is Nolan Sykes.
spk_0 Actually it's Joe Weber.
spk_0 Nolan is out this week because he's in Bonneville doing speed week stuff and speaking of speed
spk_0 we are talking about Wally Parks and the genesis of the NHRA the governing body for all drag
spk_0 racing in the US.
spk_0 This dude is like a super interesting character was there from the beginning of hot rotting
spk_0 and tuning and kind of formed it into this safe thing that we know of today.
spk_0 It's a really interesting story.
spk_0 I'm so excited for you to hear it.
spk_0 So let's jump into it.
spk_0 A short 100 miles northish from where the Peterson Automotive Museum sits today there's
spk_0 a very flat bit of land dubbed Rogers Lake formerly Merock Dry Lake and that stretch of
spk_0 salt flat is where a young Wally Parks got his first taste of speed or at least the 1933
spk_0 equivalent of it.
spk_0 This was truly the Wild West of racing.
spk_0 White Earp had died in bed still wearing his shoes just a few short years before in 1929
spk_0 and the Great Depression was finally mercifully crawling to an end.
spk_0 It was that sweet spot in history where anything felt possible.
spk_0 Barrels of whiskey were being delivered to dance halls again.
spk_0 The lone ranger was riding the airwaves and the southernmost point in the US, sloppy
spk_0 joes opened for business giving car enthusiasts a new destination.
spk_0 Back at the salt bed Wally crammed into a 1925 Chevy and stomped on the long thin accelerator
spk_0 pushing it across the flats.
spk_0 He clocked in at 82.19 miles per hour more than double while your average 1925 American
spk_0 car could muster.
spk_0 But Wally wasn't there just to feed his need for speed.
spk_0 He was soaking it all in.
spk_0 The barely controlled chaos of those time trials unfolded in front of his eyes and he was
spk_0 already blueprinting how to improve it.
spk_0 He saw the dust, the oil slicks, the burning rubber and thought, I'm the guy who can make
spk_0 this whole fast car thing a safer way of life.
spk_0 But how did a young kid from a desolate town in the dry plains of Oklahoma set the standards
spk_0 for drag racing across the entire US?
spk_0 How did curbside carnage result in his desire to save lives and legitimize an entire sport?
spk_0 And how did say no to nitro help prove the National Hot Rod Association of all people
spk_0 were serious about safety?
spk_0 This week on pass gas Wally Parks in the NHRA.
spk_0 What's up?
spk_0 Welcome back to pass gas.
spk_0 I am your host Joe Weber with me is Bart Bidley Meyer.
spk_0 We meet again Joe and Steph Gutierrez.
spk_0 What up?
spk_0 Thank you guys for joining us.
spk_0 It's been a minute.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 You've been in the studio here.
spk_0 It has been a fat man.
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spk_0 You missed the LeBubu's I think.
spk_0 Yeah, if you really love it, don't you get a tattoo?
spk_0 Bart's been on a kick, guys.
spk_0 Getting me, letting me get a LeBubu tattoo.
spk_0 I don't know why you wouldn't get one.
spk_0 You're super into that.
spk_0 You have tattoos, so you're not against the concept, right?
spk_0 Yeah, I just don't know.
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spk_0 I think the concept of having a silly little LeBubu right next to all my hard ass tattoos
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spk_0 Today, we're going to be talking about Wally Parks and the genesis of the NHRA, the National Hot Rod Association.
spk_0 We've done a couple videos with them on the main channel.
spk_0 I think the finale of last high low season was held at an NHRA event, right?
spk_0 I think it was our own event.
spk_0 Yes.
spk_0 But we did have like NHRA dragsters and stuff there.
spk_0 Yeah, I think it was, they helped us get that track, set it up and stuff and...
spk_0 Which is a really nice track.
spk_0 Yeah, Tucson Speedway.
spk_0 Great track.
spk_0 But I'm not super into drag racing.
spk_0 This is kind of No One's Wheelhouse, No One Intended.
spk_0 But have you guys ever gone to like an NHRA event other than that?
spk_0 You've done pretty good amount of racing, right?
spk_0 Since starting with Dona, yeah.
spk_0 And it's been really late.
spk_0 Wait, can I...
spk_0 You can do that.
spk_0 Actually, YouTube just allowed person here.
spk_0 Oh, okay.
spk_0 You can say, Fart, it's not your daddy's YouTube.
spk_0 But yeah, I've been to a few NHRA events.
spk_0 The one that they have in Pomona, the Pomona dragster.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 That one is owned by In-N-Out and is strictly only for NHRA dragsters.
spk_0 I thought you were going to say it's strictly for like people buying burgers.
spk_0 That's it.
spk_0 The drive, it's just a long drive-through.
spk_0 You always drag shit on it.
spk_0 You have to grab it on your run.
spk_0 I'll take my protein style.
spk_0 Oh my god.
spk_0 That was the track that Brittany Force beat the record on.
spk_0 I think last year and she just beat it two more times this year.
spk_0 She hit 3.41.
spk_0 3.41 in like three and a half seconds is nuts.
spk_0 Funny cars scare the shit out of me.
spk_0 Yeah, I'm waking up.
spk_0 Do you guys know anything about Wally Park?
spk_0 She's called Scary Cars.
spk_0 Yeah, that's honestly fun.
spk_0 Yeah, why do they call them funny cars?
spk_0 Actually, wait.
spk_0 You want to look at Google the...
spk_0 Yeah, the analogy of funny cars racing.
spk_0 Okay, Google AI is telling me...
spk_0 Because they have clowns in them.
spk_0 That's kind of damn it.
spk_0 The term funny car originated in the mid-60s to describe a new type of drag racing...
spk_0 That doesn't help at all.
spk_0 They were just funny cars.
spk_0 I guess it's just like the actual like the way it looks on the exterior.
spk_0 Because it's just a dropped on like body type.
spk_0 This is telling me that it just means it refers to the unusual or strange appearance.
spk_0 The proportions are all weird.
spk_0 It does look funny, you know?
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 It just seems a little...
spk_0 Yeah, on the nose and underwhelming.
spk_0 It's like a funny bone.
spk_0 That nothing funny about a funny bone.
spk_0 Should we get into it?
spk_0 Let's do it.
spk_0 We all know what funny cars are.
spk_0 Okay, cool.
spk_0 Wally Park's was born on January 23rd, 1913, in the dusty farmlands of Goldtree, Oklahoma.
spk_0 Oklahoma was not exactly okay at the time.
spk_0 The fertile land was starting to dry out.
spk_0 People were starting to notice.
spk_0 People like Wally's folks.
spk_0 So when his family like half the country at the time packed up and chased a dream all the
spk_0 way to California in the early 20s, a whole new world opened up for this curious kid.
spk_0 The speed bug was contagious and the wide open expanse of the Mojave Desert just outside
spk_0 of LA became the perfect playground for anyone itching to push all those new machines to
spk_0 their limits.
spk_0 Wally had the natural mechanical genius of a hard-scrable farm boy and it showed.
spk_0 Scrable is hard.
spk_0 You guys good at Scrable?
spk_0 I'm...
spk_0 I pride myself.
spk_0 I don't want to say I'm very good at it.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 But I will say...
spk_0 I will say I'm very good at Scrable.
spk_0 People get mad at me.
spk_0 I either one that like fills in the gaps and does three words at a time.
spk_0 Yeah, I do a lot of that stuff.
spk_0 I do a lot of...
spk_0 My wife hates playing games like that with me because I want to win.
spk_0 I like taking advantage of the rules.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 So I don't know.
spk_0 It's hardwired into me.
spk_0 I'm sorry.
spk_0 Ain't no shame we're trying to win, Bart.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Bart's out there trying to destroy his loved ones.
spk_0 But it's such a...
spk_0 It's such a...
spk_0 Make sure that he's the king.
spk_0 I'm aware that it's not a positive trait of mine that I want to beat people at stupid
spk_0 games that should be fun.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 I'm aware of that.
spk_0 Well that has a good...
spk_0 But I'm so good at them I can't not do it.
spk_0 I can't help that I'm so good.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 It's a burden.
spk_0 It's my cross.
spk_0
spk_0 It's a burden to me.
spk_0 It's my cross.
spk_0 It's my cross.
spk_0 It's my cross.
spk_0 I like words.
spk_0 I like words.
spk_0 I like words.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 So that's...
spk_0 I think that comes up a lot where you're just like, well the etymology of this is blah,
spk_0 blah, blah.
spk_0 And the way that you're saying it is actually the wrong context.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Well especially now when the kids are learning new words.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 You're like, well what does that mean?
spk_0 And sometimes I'm like, like, make you give an answer and it'll be like, but it's a little...
spk_0 You know, yeah, I had something she's like, just sh** shut up.
spk_0 What does bro deadass cook mean?
spk_0 It didn't take long before Wally was a fixture in the early hot rod scene.
spk_0 You'd find him perched on the edge of the sun cooked like beds throughout the late 20s
spk_0 and 30s.
spk_0 He wasn't just watching.
spk_0 He was learning.
spk_0 Wally was writing safety manuals in his mind long before he'd made a name for himself
spk_0 behind the wheel.
spk_0 But as anyone very involved in any kind of racing knows, it wasn't just about speed.
spk_0 It was about family.
spk_0 By 1937 he was in tight with the Roadrunner's car club, a crew of like-minded speed junkies
spk_0 and gear heads who weren't just shown up to set records.
spk_0 They were one of the earliest groups sharing what they'd learned racing and wrenching to help
spk_0 improve the scene.
spk_0 I remember we talked about the Roadrunners in the Customs episode, but at that point
spk_0 I think they had already been around for a long time if this is like the early 30s.
spk_0 That's crazy.
spk_0 You have to figure out everything by yourself for these kind of early engines.
spk_0 I wonder what they were doing to like, sup them up, mess with the timing.
spk_0 What could you do on those early like a model engine?
spk_0 What did you do with that?
spk_0 Screwed with compression and timing.
spk_0 Yeah, it probably had like six to one compression or something like that.
spk_0 That's crazy.
spk_0 That's crazy.
spk_0 That's okay. I can even think that far back.
spk_0 I can smell that car.
spk_0 Yeah, for sure.
spk_0 These clubs were the soul of early hot rotting.
spk_0 They were in formal fraternities built on a shared obsession with fixing cars and breaking
spk_0 limits.
spk_0 The Roadrunners along with a few other outfits joined forces and became a Southern California
spk_0 timing association or the SCTA.
spk_0 The predecessor to the NHRA and Wally was right there on day one.
spk_0 This was his first true taste of wrangling all that chaos into some kind of structure
spk_0 and he liked it.
spk_0 When World War II came knocking, the GM plant he was working at was forcibly converted
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spk_0 they could be improved.
spk_0 Wally got so good at tankery that he became part of the US tank exhibition team that showed
spk_0 off new products and offerings for the US Army.
spk_0 That'd be a cool show to go.
spk_0 And Uncle Sam liked the cut of Wally's jib so much that they sent him to the South Pacific.
spk_0 Oh my God.
spk_0 It seems like punishment.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Great job.
spk_0 All right.
spk_0 I'm going to go to the middle of nowhere.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Oh, you sure I can't just keep building these things?
spk_0 Look, I really like testing tanks.
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spk_0 But thousands of miles and limited resources wouldn't keep Wally down.
spk_0 He immediately ripped a V8 from a passenger car and crammed it into a Willis jeep.
spk_0 That's sick.
spk_0 That's quite a flex right there.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 This was no distress.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Oh, yeah.
spk_0 This was no doubt the first jeep rod in existence and it helped to put Wally on the radar
spk_0 of the Army High Command.
spk_0 It wasn't long before Wally was driving his jeep rod with wide open exhaust all over
spk_0 the Philippines doing mechanical troubleshooting for the military.
spk_0 This combo of hands-on experience, a deep-seated understanding of mechanics and the natural
spk_0 urge to organize would become the very foundation of his legendary achievements.
spk_0 When he landed back in the States, he left GM to focus on building the SCTA full-time as
spk_0 their business manager.
spk_0 All over the US, the hot rod scene was exploding.
spk_0 Fueled by GI's returning home with all new mechanical skills earned in the field and
spk_0 a few bucks in their pocket.
spk_0 As well as a bit of PTSD-fueled need for dopamine hits that office jobs waiting back in the
spk_0 States just weren't providing.
spk_0 That's fair.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 That sounds alright.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Yeah, I mean, imagine we've talked about it before because it's the genesis of so many
spk_0 different car cultures of like, ah, I'm going to blow my head off if I don't feel
spk_0 adrenaline right now.
spk_0 Coming back from war and being shot at and then just having to go back to like the suburbs.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Yeah, you need another fake somehow.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 I'm in a build-up motorcycle.
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spk_0 Oh my god.
spk_0 You got to be all never played road rash on people.
spk_0 I didn't know what you were referencing.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Road rash was a great game.
spk_0 Yeah.
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spk_0 We talked about him, ah, maybe 80 episodes ago.
spk_0 He started a hot rod magazine.
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spk_0 He knew the passionate and misunderstood sub culture of hot rodding needed a voice and
spk_0 most of all that voice had to be positive Peterson and while he hit it off right away.
spk_0 Wally ever the pragmatist told him the SCTA was broke then came the counter from Peterson.
spk_0 What if the SCTA and Peterson's Hollywood publicity associates teamed up for the first
spk_0 ever hot rod show it would be a straight up PR stunt to try and alter the image of hot
spk_0 rodders from greasers with switch plates to marketable greasers.
spk_0 This change of switch plates to coms.
spk_0 Oh yeah.
spk_0 Hey that's a good idea.
spk_0 Has anyone ever made that?
spk_0 I'm going to patent it now.
spk_0 Do you put palm in your hair?
spk_0 No.
spk_0 I don't think I think you'd see my scalp if I did.
spk_0 You'd have that like a New York sewer grade hair.
spk_0 Steam coming up from it.
spk_0 Oh my god.
spk_0 This wasn't just some funruckers car show.
spk_0 The hot rod exposition which eventually launched in January of 1948 at the Los Angeles
spk_0 Armory was a hail Mary for hot rodders.
spk_0 Before this car shows were more like the Pebble Beach concours del gonson less like a
spk_0 car's and coffee behind a grocery store.
spk_0 This exposition was to show off and legitimize the greasy strip down loud machines built
spk_0 an apartment building parking lots and behind barns and it worked like a charm.
spk_0 It was a massive unexpected hit while brainstorming the perfect show Peterson had another
spk_0 light bulb moment.
spk_0 A magazine dedicated to this burgeoning culture.
spk_0 Just you may ask if this is before his magazine.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 He initially toyed with auto craft but at the end of the day he did the right thing and
spk_0 named it hot rod.
spk_0 Because auto craft could have been like off putting to the real hot rodders.
spk_0 I feel like you're like I don't want to buy this.
spk_0 I think it's the difference between like science and engineering magazine.
spk_0 You know what I mean?
spk_0 Auto craft is which is what I think was prevalent but then if you call it hot rod it's like
spk_0 it's a counter to.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 It's like if you're talking to a Gen Z.
spk_0 Hot rod mechanics.
spk_0 And you were like this guy sucks instead of being like Uncle dead ass cooked for real.
spk_0 You know that was so gross.
spk_0 That was crazy.
spk_0 I like the way Joe formed that sentence.
spk_0 It was kind of like second nature to him at this point.
spk_0 Oh yeah.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 I've been saying that for weeks now.
spk_0
spk_0 You're getting it.
spk_0 You're using those.
spk_0 Thanks.
spk_0 If I didn't pull that off I'd probably have to unalive myself.
spk_0 Wally was buried under SCTA duties and he couldn't jump into the editor's chair right away.
spk_0 But he gave his full blessing recognizing the sheer potential to champion the hot rod cause.
spk_0 He was deep down a journalist even if it didn't show yet.
spk_0 Richard Parks, Wally's son summed up his dad's straight shooting writing style in an interview decades later.
spk_0 Quote, there were no wild hot rodders in his mind.
spk_0 They were innovative and creative people who loved the car and love speed.
spk_0 They just needed a place to do it safely.
spk_0 That was Wally's dream from day one.
spk_0 That was really nice way to like think and then we're like to him.
spk_0 It really wasn't like these like greasers all badass and shit.
spk_0 Yeah, they're just misunderstood.
spk_0 They just needed a place to unleash themselves.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 You know.
spk_0 Yeah, and I feel like that's still that's so true.
spk_0 Problem that today's youths run into.
spk_0 I sound like Gen Z yet.
spk_0 But it is a really big problem where it's like that's why they always say they take it to the track.
spk_0 Cause I mean in the streets there's so many variables that could very easily go wrong.
spk_0 And yeah, even if there's no one even if there's no one around.
spk_0 Like you could still mess your car up on a pothole.
spk_0 You could still do damage.
spk_0 You could kill yourself.
spk_0 There's not you know like streets are unregulated.
spk_0 Drag strip.
spk_0 They're also not designed.
spk_0 Yeah, for you know, you go someplace where it's designed to race.
spk_0 Yeah, Wally saw hot rod magazine as this church where he could preach the gospel of organized safe racing.
spk_0 I suppose it would be his pulpit, wouldn't it?
spk_0 Back to my stupid word stuff.
spk_0 Now what is that?
spk_0 Sorry.
spk_0 That's a good scrap word.
spk_0 Marches can't turn it off.
spk_0 Just grabble on the mind.
spk_0 Do the last I'd say five Scrabble games.
spk_0 I've gotten five ease.
spk_0 Two eyes.
spk_0 Nothing to do.
spk_0 I can't and my luck was gravel so bad.
spk_0 That is true.
spk_0 There's a lot of luck involved in what happened.
spk_0 Wally eventually took the editorial reins and under his watch,
spk_0 the mag became more than just glossy picks of tricked out cars.
spk_0 It became the definitive voice for the hot rod community.
spk_0 The magazine was pumping out positive vibes and most importantly pushing for legitimate racing venues
spk_0 off of the public streets where people were getting hurt.
spk_0 He used the pages of hot rod to illustrate just how dangerous street racing was for the racers
spk_0 and the innocent bystanders laying out the future of drag racing piece by piece with each new issue.
spk_0 Wally wasn't just pumping out articles.
spk_0 He was growing in an important movement.
spk_0 He traveled between popular race tracks and time trial spots
spk_0 so he could connect with racers, track organizers and enthusiasts.
spk_0 He was like Johnny Apples, traveling the country,
spk_0 planning the seeds that would become the trees that he could use to build his empire of legitimate racing on that.
spk_0 Matter for is to.
spk_0 That was a lot.
spk_0 There's a lot of legwork to get that one to work.
spk_0 No, don't you see the seeds are like tires and he tires to go fast.
spk_0 And then the apples that fall off that don't get harvested.
spk_0 Those are like.
spk_0 Those are like juices like gas.
spk_0 His passion is a metaphor.
spk_0 Yeah, it is a really good metaphor.
spk_0
spk_0 I knew we could understand it.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 What's your favorite, favorite apple step?
spk_0 My favorite apple.
spk_0 Let me tell you something.
spk_0 Um, what's the, I love you really like the green ones.
spk_0 Green apples.
spk_0 Yeah, Granny Smith.
spk_0 Yeah, Granny Smith.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 I'll mess those.
spk_0 Those are the best for baking because they stay tart and they, they maintain their
spk_0 constant.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 I like that.
spk_0 What's your favorite apple?
spk_0 Um, you know, for just snacking, I'd say honey crisp or cosmic crisp.
spk_0 Mm hmm.
spk_0 Uh, for baking, I'd definitely, uh, Granny Smith.
spk_0 I make a mean tartata.
spk_0 Bring it here.
spk_0 Okay, move it.
spk_0 Prove it, Joe.
spk_0 Call me Johnny Apple speed.
spk_0 His passion was infectious and he started to gather a devoted following of people
spk_0 who believed in his business.
spk_0 It's American.
spk_0 It's tart tartine.
spk_0 Wally's writing in hot rod wasn't just informational.
spk_0 It was persuasive.
spk_0 He took his readers to school as he broke down technical ideas and laid out all the nuts
spk_0 and bolts.
spk_0 It's good enough.
spk_0 The nuts and bolts are the apples.
spk_0 What do we go on?
spk_0 The nuts and bolts are like seeds.
spk_0 Are we off to it?
spk_0 And you need those to grow more apple speeds.
spk_0 No, I get it.
spk_0 Now I get it.
spk_0 Going fast was great.
spk_0 He preached, but doing it safely was paramount.
spk_0 He ran stories on organized races, profiles of responsible racers and deep dives in the
spk_0 safety gear and techniques while carefully positioning advertisers and keeping them happy.
spk_0 Wally was also fighting a battle of limitations inside the SCTA.
spk_0 While the SCTA was pivotal for early hot rodding, its focus was squarely on land speed records
spk_0 out on those dry lakes.
spk_0 It simply wasn't ready for the explosion of drag racing, which was popping up on
spk_0 airstrips and purpose-built tracks all over the US.
spk_0 Wally saw the need for a new organization, one that was custom-built for the unique challenges
spk_0 and opportunities of drag racing.
spk_0 He envisioned a body that would set standards in four safety regulations and build a new
spk_0 national stage for the sport.
spk_0 I'm envisioning a body right now.
spk_0 Oh God.
spk_0 I feel naked.
spk_0 His time at Hot Rod magazine, his intimate knowledge of the hot rod community and his
spk_0 growing frustration with a lack of effective drag racing organizations, all that converged
spk_0 to plant the seed for his most enduring legacy.
spk_0 Oh good, another seed.
spk_0 And that seed was the National Hot Rod Association.
spk_0 So effectively what's happening is he's saying everybody you guys should all race, do it
spk_0 effectively and safely and all these little organizations popped up and he's kind of like,
spk_0 oh shit, what have I done?
spk_0 They're all doing it differently.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 And so now he's got to take the reins.
spk_0 And the SCTA was kind of behind on like they, he was and he wasn't and he was a member
spk_0 of it, but not in charge of it.
spk_0 That's why I was getting frustrated.
spk_0 And on a dry lake bed, like you're not going to crash into people, you're not going
spk_0 to crash into the stands and stuff.
spk_0 It's a totally different beast than like what was becoming popular and he saw the need
spk_0 for like a governing organization.
spk_0 That's a fair thought.
spk_0 If you know car people, you know they don't like regulations.
spk_0 They know like being told what to do.
spk_0 So like it's a thin line to tread.
spk_0 And that's what he found out.
spk_0 The late 1940s and early 1950s were an exciting time for American motor sports to
spk_0 say the least.
spk_0 The postwar boom brought faster and faster cars.
spk_0 Sadly with more speed came more carnage, especially for those on the sidelines.
spk_0 Street racing was rampant and becoming increasingly dangerous and sadly more fatal.
spk_0 Public outcry hit a fever pitch and an alternative was needed.
spk_0 Wally saw this as a golden opportunity.
spk_0 He believed that hot riding could be reframed as a legitimate sport full of clear rules,
spk_0 organized and ticketed events, and most crucially safety.
spk_0 He knew that some of the existing organizations were a good start, but they all had a long
spk_0 way to go.
spk_0 The SCTA was great for dry lake runs, but drag racing needed its own champion.
spk_0 And so in 1951 Wally started the National Hot Rod Association.
spk_0 This wasn't a glitzy corporate launch.
spk_0 This was a grassroots explosion fueled by Wally's sheer willpower and the support of a crew
spk_0 of followers.
spk_0 The initial mission statement for the NHRA was straightforward and simple.
spk_0 To establish rules and regulations for drag racing and to promote safety, dedicated to safety
spk_0 wasn't just some catchy slogan plastered on a banner.
spk_0 It was the guiding light of the NHRA, a principal Wally would champion relentlessly for the
spk_0 rest of his life.
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spk_0 The early days of the NHRA were chaotic.
spk_0 Wally was a jack of all trades working tirelessly.
spk_0 He glad-handed his way across the country smiling alongside racers, track owners,
spk_0 and local officials spreading the gospel.
spk_0 He immediately faced resistance though.
spk_0 Old school hot rotters were unsure about the stack of regulations Wally wanted to drop in their lap.
spk_0 They saw it as an affront to their personal freedoms as we still see nowadays.
spk_0 Any kind of change in rules for racing or EPA regulations, people are like-
spk_0 Look what the freedoms when states made driving and drinking.
spk_0 I was just thinking about that as well.
spk_0 I've seen those videos of those interviews.
spk_0 Like what am I not supposed to have a beer on my way home from work?
spk_0 Well yeah, you're not supposed to have a beer.
spk_0 People freaked out when it went down to a 55-mile-hour speed limit too.
spk_0 I remember they in Wisconsin at least, I remember hearing that they were-
spk_0 The government was going to withhold funds for highways and roads unless they changed it.
spk_0 I know there was tons of resistance for that.
spk_0 I'd be pissed too.
spk_0 Yeah, but I think it was for 55 within metropolitan areas.
spk_0 So like is it really good out?
spk_0 The 55 thing was a big government push because-
spk_0 For gas miles.
spk_0 Yeah, and we were in the gas crisis.
spk_0 Wait, so it went down?
spk_0 So they were-
spk_0 Oh, yeah.
spk_0 Okay, so in the city areas, these fools were driving like 60.
spk_0 If not more.
spk_0 Oh, yeah.
spk_0 Oh, yeah.
spk_0 I thought other states drove slower than us.
spk_0 It's a lot different now.
spk_0 Yeah, it used to be for that reason the speed limit was 55 and then it kind of got loosened.
spk_0 Yeah, I do remember doing it like in a whole wheelhouse I was doing research.
spk_0 I think the average for most cars 45 is the most fuel-efficient speed.
spk_0 Like anything after that the wind resistance is too much that you're actually like using more gas
spk_0 to just push through the air.
spk_0 But like no, it wants to drive 45.
spk_0 That's boring.
spk_0 Don't tell me how to drive on my way from work.
spk_0 Yeah, that's coming.
spk_0 After a long day.
spk_0 With my beer?
spk_0 Yeah, with my beer, my road's ready.
spk_0 My road's ready.
spk_0 The-
spk_0 I came back-
spk_0 I came back from Las Vegas and it's such a frustrating trip because you're just constantly passing people
spk_0 on their right.
spk_0 Because in the-
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Because no one-
spk_0 It's such a long drive.
spk_0 That it just keeps getting worse in my head where it's like I don't think I could physically
spk_0 get past on my right and stay in the left.
spk_0 Like I don't think I can do it.
spk_0 Yeah, I don't understand how anyone else does.
spk_0 Any-
spk_0 It's a frustrating drive.
spk_0 I don't know if you guys have been seeing these like the Sony car
spk_0 that's coming out the Afeela.
spk_0 Okay.
spk_0 They're-
spk_0 They're marketing it now as like it's got an LED screen that you can put messages on the front.
spk_0 I know.
spk_0 And in the ad that I saw, it was like
spk_0 this guy put his-
spk_0 It's her birthday.
spk_0 A clap for her or something.
spk_0 And all these bystanders were like walking past.
spk_0 That's so wack.
spk_0 I know.
spk_0 I would use that for malice.
spk_0 Well, you know 99.9% of the time.
spk_0 If people use that, it's going to be like-
spk_0 Get the f*** out of there.
spk_0 Hey, you're like-
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 I would love that.
spk_0 We need-
spk_0 I would-
spk_0 That'd be really, really fun to have around.
spk_0 Yes.
spk_0 I don't think we need more distractions on the outside of our cars.
spk_0 People are already-
spk_0 Only some like individuals can own them.
spk_0 That's what that-
spk_0 You have to have like a-
spk_0 No speeding tickets or-
spk_0 Yeah, you have to-
spk_0 Pretty decent record.
spk_0 I don't want to say perfricht, but-
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Decent and perfect.
spk_0 I've-
spk_0 I have thought about like having-
spk_0 Whenever I drive like my manual cars,
spk_0 everyone without fail is like a foot away from my bumper on a hill and I'm like-
spk_0 I want to be like-
spk_0 Move the f*** back.
spk_0 Like sometimes I like roll my-
spk_0 down my window and I'm like-
spk_0 Go back.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 But they don't ever look at me like-
spk_0 Anyways, I should just get better at driving manual.
spk_0 I thought you should just use them to push you forward.
spk_0 Then you don't have to worry.
spk_0 I love a love topic.
spk_0 Never heard nobody.
spk_0 Yeah, that's true.
spk_0 Should we get back to Walsh?
spk_0 Yeah, please.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 These hot rotters are getting kind of fed up with all the regulations.
spk_0 Right.
spk_0 Don't-
spk_0 The man is keeping you down.
spk_0 But Wally was a master debater and quite persuasive.
spk_0 Wally knew how to sell his vision in a way that made people feel empowered
spk_0 more than put upon.
spk_0 Wally had his elevator pitch about how safety would improve the sport,
spk_0 not limit it because racers and innocent bystanders would live to enjoy the spectacle.
spk_0 That's true.
spk_0 You can't kill your audience.
spk_0 That's true.
spk_0 That's bad business.
spk_0 That is bad business.
spk_0
spk_0 If you keep doing that.
spk_0 One of the NHRA's first tasks was hammering out consistent rules and classifications.
spk_0 Back in the day, drag racing was a chaotic, free-for-all from track to track.
spk_0 Wally spearheaded the effort to develop a comprehensive rulebook,
spk_0 working with racers and experts to craft a system that was fair,
spk_0 safe and easily understood.
spk_0 This rulebook became the drag bible,
spk_0 providing a desperately needed framework for the sport.
spk_0 As far as rules go, it's comprehensive as an understeady.
spk_0 Oh yeah.
spk_0 It's crazy.
spk_0 I mean, now it's like,
spk_0 my line by my line.
spk_0 I've never read it.
spk_0 Can you tell?
spk_0 But rules are moot without enforcement.
spk_0 Wally knew that.
spk_0 He established a rigorous system of technical inspections and safety checks,
spk_0 ensuring that cars were built and maintained to the highest standards.
spk_0 He also emphasized track safety,
spk_0 working with the owners to upgrade facilities and implement crucial safety measures like
spk_0 catch nets and advanced fire suppression systems.
spk_0 His dedication to safety was absolute unnegotiable,
spk_0 and he wasn't afraid to make tough calls, even if they were unpopular.
spk_0 One of the first times Wally had to put his rule marker status to the test was on March 1, 1957.
spk_0 Wally was setting track records in a 1957 Plymouth in Daytona,
spk_0 but back in California, the cook and bed well dragster driven by Emory Cook,
spk_0 sat three new records in its first three runs.
spk_0 First, cook bested the track elapsed time record.
spk_0 Then in his second run, he tied for track speed record.
spk_0 And on his third run, he beat the world record, which was set by Bobby Allsens
spk_0 in Kenny Lindley's Miss Fire 2.
spk_0 That's a cool name.
spk_0 Miss Fire 2.
spk_0 At the NHRA Nationals in Kansas City of the year before.
spk_0 Track officials and everyone else watching were stunned that this car blew through all the
spk_0 records held at the track and beat the world record.
spk_0 When they found out the dragster was running Nitro, C.J. Hart, the owner of the Santa Anna Strip,
spk_0 put his foot down and banned the gas, citing the short stopping links at the SoCal strips.
spk_0 He wasn't a hater to me.
spk_0 I mean, as an owner, like if you had a house party, you don't want anyone dying there.
spk_0 They don't have a house party.
spk_0 You know the whole house party.
spk_0 You just have to take away the ever clear.
spk_0 I want to go to some of your parties.
spk_0 Does this sound wild?
spk_0 You don't want anybody to die.
spk_0 You don't want anybody to die.
spk_0 Don't have a house party.
spk_0 You know how house parties go.
spk_0 No, that's not how they go.
spk_0 They're not supposed to go like that.
spk_0 Now imagine that you own the house and your livelihood is having these parties.
spk_0 So you don't want people bringing in crazy shit and possibly dying because that means
spk_0 you're going to lose your house and lose your business.
spk_0 Does something like a grabber right now?
spk_0 It's funny.
spk_0 No, I just thought,
spk_0 how did you tell me that?
spk_0 I just thought it was so funny that you were explaining this to me.
spk_0 You're thinking, damn,
spk_0 Uncle Dennis crashing over right now.
spk_0 And I'm witnessing it with my arm.
spk_0 I just rage-bated Uncle right now.
spk_0 He wasn't worried about world records or upsetting other racers.
spk_0 Heart was concerned about insurance premiums and drag racers
spk_0 splatting themselves against the end of the quarter of a mile.
spk_0 Wally returned from Daytona and found himself neck deep in a good old-fashioned feud between
spk_0 racers eager to go faster and everyone else who wanted it safer.
spk_0 Racers were on a tizzy, but Wally said no way and stood his ground.
spk_0 And putting health and safety over going a bit faster,
spk_0 shine to light on the entire NHRA and legitimize them in the public's eye.
spk_0 So good overall, you gotta be the dad once in a while.
spk_0 That's maybe a little bit too much for the limitations of the track.
spk_0 Let's just keep it to race gas.
spk_0 Yeah, that's not so horrible, is it?
spk_0 Isn't it?
spk_0 But I'm gonna go to the other Uncle's party.
spk_0 Yeah, and maybe someone might die there.
spk_0 It's gonna be Uncle's cooking over there.
spk_0 Over there?
spk_0 Yes.
spk_0 Let him cook.
spk_0 I'm so aware of how old I'm getting.
spk_0 And you know, I'm just trying to relate to the bull.
spk_0 You're doing a good job at it.
spk_0 I'm telling you Joe, you could be let out on the streets like Joe.
spk_0 You're dead ass killing it.
spk_0 Oh, thanks.
spk_0 Thanks, Uncle.
spk_0 We can't call each other Uncle.
spk_0 We can't call each other Uncle.
spk_0 Why not?
spk_0 That would have to imply that you see him as your Uncle.
spk_0 What's wrong with that?
spk_0 Well, if my mom, if my,
spk_0 I am not Uncle.
spk_0 If my sister gave birth to him and his sister gave birth to me,
spk_0 yeah, then we would both be Uncle's to each other, right?
spk_0 Is that possible?
spk_0 I mean, that situation is possible,
spk_0 but I don't think we're each other's Uncle's.
spk_0 Chatt, let us know if you can be your friend's Uncle.
spk_0 While his personal touch was woven into every part of the NHRA,
spk_0 he wasn't a being counter or an uninterested boss.
spk_0 He was a constant visible present at races,
spk_0 chatting with racers, listening to their gripes,
spk_0 offering his own words of wisdom.
spk_0 He genuinely cared about the people who made the sport work
spk_0 and they respected him back.
spk_0 Quote, he knew everyone, his son said later after while he passed.
spk_0 He remembered their names, their cars, their families.
spk_0 He made everyone feel important.
spk_0 I think that's super important for especially a small business
spk_0 to like remember everyone.
spk_0 It's like a personal touch.
spk_0 You want to feel that like homey feeling, you know?
spk_0 Yeah, especially with being a track.
spk_0 Because you're going to be there a lot if you're really doing this, you know?
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Garner's goodwill.
spk_0 So like you're saying everybody's like,
spk_0 this is real sick.
spk_0
spk_0 Well, and then it's like, yeah, but I know him.
spk_0 He means well.
spk_0 Yes.
spk_0 That's the whole thing is like he's not behind the desk somewhere out of state.
spk_0 Like he's on the ground talking to everyone.
spk_0 He's kind of franchising all these communities into one thing.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 He's literally just trying his best guys.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 I can't blame him.
spk_0 This personal connection was the secret sauce,
spk_0 building the NHR into a unified powerhouse organization.
spk_0 Wally fostered a genuine sense of community.
spk_0 That feeling that everyone was pulling toward a shared goal.
spk_0 He crafted an environment where racers felt heard, felt valued,
spk_0 and where safety was a collective pact.
spk_0 His influence grew beyond the strip.
spk_0 Wally became a revered voice in the broader motor sports world,
spk_0 advocating for safety and legitimacy across all disciplines.
spk_0 He sat on committees, served on boards,
spk_0 and dished out his expertise and passion to drivers who went beyond the straight line.
spk_0 He was a tireless champion for the radical idea that motor sports could be both thrilling and safe.
spk_0 The NHRA under Wally's unwavering leadership kept growing and evolving.
spk_0 The safety safari launched in 1954.
spk_0 A traveling road show that hauled NHRA officials and safety experts to tracks all over the US.
spk_0 This directly helped to get new drag strips off the ground with a set of pre-cooked safety practices.
spk_0 It was a brilliant grassroots stroke of genius that brought marketing and education together
spk_0 to solidify the NHRA's national footprint and its fierce commitment to helping the sports grow safely.
spk_0 The very first NHRA national event, the Nationals, went down and great Ben Kansas in 1955.
spk_0 This was a landmark moment, planting the flag for a premier event that would become a cornerstone
spk_0 of the NHRA's schedule, a showcase for the absolute best of the best.
spk_0 The first NHRA national championship drags meet set the bar high.
spk_0 It was dubbed America's first acceleration championship.
spk_0 The event honored drivers and the records, as well as tested out kilometer runs on concrete.
spk_0 Even the worst storm in 30 years couldn't keep the NHRA crew from parting hard and going fast.
spk_0 Richard parks often wax his poetic about his father's relentless work ethic and his
spk_0 unyielding dedication to the NHRA. Quote, he lived and breathed the NHRA. Richard says,
spk_0 it wasn't just a job, it was his life's mission. This level of personal investment,
spk_0 this sole, deep commitment is what set Wally apart and what allowed him to build an organization that
spk_0 has not just survived but thrived over 70 years. Wally's personal life, though often
spk_0 inextricably entwined with his work, also shaped his worldview. His burning desire to make
spk_0 racing safe wasn't just a professional checkbox, it was a deeply personal crusade.
spk_0 He wanted future generations of racers, maybe even his own grandkids, to taste the thrill of speed
spk_0 without risking it all by living one quarter a mile at a time. This personal motivation added
spk_0 an extra layer of passion and almost desperate urgency to his safety mission. As the NHRA grew,
spk_0 it spawned its own traditions, none as incredible as the Wally trophy, handed to the big winners at
spk_0 NHRA National Events. Affectionately named in his honor, the Wally is more than just metal.
spk_0 The award is an ultimate badge of honor for drag racers. Its very existence is a direct,
spk_0 chrome plated, annual shout out to Wally Parks and his foundational world shaping role in the sport.
spk_0 Wally eventually stepped down from the NHRA in 1984 but is bond with the sport he formed, never
spk_0 loosened. He remained a guiding star dispensing wisdom and perspective like a seasoned sage.
spk_0 He was a driving force behind the NHRA Motor Sports Museum in Pomona, California,
spk_0 a temple dedicated to preserving the epic history of drag racing and celebrating the trailblazers
spk_0 who carved its path. The museum stands as another towering monument to his commitment to the
spk_0 sports heritage and its unwavering desire to educate future generations about its roots.
spk_0 Even in his golden years, Wally was a familiar, beloved face at NHRA events. He was still there
spk_0 mixing it up with racers and fans, his passion undimmed, burning as brightly as ever.
spk_0 Wally passed away on September 28th, 2007 at the age of 94 due to pneumonia.
spk_0 Wally Parks is more than just a guy who founded the NHRA. He was the conscience of drag racing.
spk_0 He took a chaotic, dangerous subculture of backyard tinkerer and transformed it into a legitimate,
spk_0 respected, thunderous sport. His relentless, uncompromising commitment to safety saved countless lives,
spk_0 making it possible for generations of gear heads to chase the thrills speed in a controlled
spk_0 environment. And we thank him for that. Thank you Wally Parks. And if you haven't been in an NHRA
spk_0 event, go, go. Yeah. Because they're, they're nuts. It is life changing.
spk_0 It is life changing. Until you're there. Yeah. It's one thing to see it on ESPN, the Ocho,
spk_0 but to see it in real life and breathe the fumes and cover your ears. Oh my God.
spk_0 You feel that rumble in your soul. Yeah. And just the technical aspect behind it, the fact that they
spk_0 like rebuild an engine between runs is insane. I also think you, you could never have gotten to
spk_0 that point if it wasn't for Wally's rules and regulations and starting it because you'd never
spk_0 be able to keep pushing, yeah, in a controlled environment. You'd be doing it somewhere else.
spk_0 And who's to say, like, how many lives he's saved just by creating a rulebook and creating these
spk_0 technical inspections? Like, it's just the fact that people are like building their own cars at home
spk_0 and not thinking about safety. They're going to get checked at these events and they can't race because
spk_0 of it. But maybe they go home and like, they can't stop and bring it back. Right. And the things that
spk_0 are rules in NHRA, some of it is, well, if I want to do this, this is the rule I might as well put,
spk_0 you know, this shut off in the trunk. Yeah. But it also is now your car safer, you know. Yeah.
spk_0 I mean, I think, you know, his rules were super, super needed and we are, we're at with racing now,
spk_0 which is honestly amazing. Yeah. I love, I love our modern day, like, NHRA events and stuff.
spk_0 It with rules and regulations, I feel like you also set the bar a lot higher.
spk_0 Well, and you get, that's now that's why there are classes and that's why it makes it almost
spk_0 even more remarkable that you could do what you're doing with the known restrictions that everyone
spk_0 is under. Yeah. They're also documenting like the records and setting that kind of bar and
spk_0 maintaining the records for it. So I think that's cool. I love a good record keeper, you know.
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