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Week 6 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Nasty Boys - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/7
In this episode of the Fantasy Footmuller's podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright dive into the Week 6 waiver wire picks and recap the thrilling Monday Night Football game. T...
Week 6 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Nasty Boys - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/7
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The Fantasy Footmuller Studio is sponsored by Walmart.
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Welcome to the Fantasy Footmuller's podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
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Oh, welcome in!
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Tuesday, October 7th, Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway.
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Did I miss anything?
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When do I get a day off?
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Dude, I am so happy for you.
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I feel like I need a day off of this stupid, ridiculous sport.
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So you missed the club.
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I did.
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I did so much.
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If you didn't see my tweet, I was at a Weekend Punk Festival, Punk Music Festival, and we got punked as well.
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Yeah, I mean, Sunday, I was able to take in like, you know, on Red Zone, most of the morning games,
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and then we get to the afternoon, and my phone is just exploding.
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I mean, it's you guys.
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It's my school buddies.
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It's my father.
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And I'm like, what is going on?
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And the service is real spotty, out where the, it's over.
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I'm checking in, trying to figure out what's going on.
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And I'm like, oh, oh, see this, see this.
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But then I got to really see it.
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It would have been awesome if you had seen like 21 to 3 in the fourth quarter.
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And then you like just refresh your phone.
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It says 2221.
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It was not having to live through it, having a great time.
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While it's going on, the juxtaposition was, guys, I felt great.
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Wow.
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What a weekend.
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Yeah, yeah, it was good.
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Happy Tuesday, everybody.
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Happy Tuesday.
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We've got a pretty exciting Monday night football game to recap.
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We got a waiver wire show today.
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Gonna get you up to date on who you need to pick up.
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If there's some big names that, you know, interest these gentlemen in front of me.
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I will say this.
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I looked at it this morning.
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We are five weeks in.
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There are nine weeks of regular season fantasy football left.
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That's nearly two thirds of the season.
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So before you get to playoffs, like you mostly,
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leagues play off start week 15.
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Yeah.
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And we're only five weeks in.
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Yeah, we're one third of the regular season along.
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And people start quitting.
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People in leagues say, you know, they're two and three, let alone, you know,
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the O and fives.
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And they're like, oh, well, my season is over.
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It's done.
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And it has just not true.
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We have done this so long.
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And we get so many messages.
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If I was O and four, O and three, O and five, one and four.
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And then they make the playoffs and win a championship.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you've seen it from just the injuries that have taken place in the first five weeks of the season.
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Powerhouse team suddenly aren't powerhouse teams.
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Mike went into our dynasty league with darn well as super team.
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Oh, yeah, unbeatable burrow and chase stack.
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CDLAM has got no pro.
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Oh, Derek, Derek Henry.
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Yeah, Derek Henry, who's, I mean, what is he rest of season?
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All right.
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If you had to set a line on him rest of season finishing inside the top, what?
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Yeah.
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What's the line tomorrow show we are doing a fantasy draft redo of the first two.
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So we will find out of Derek Henry's and the first two rounds or not.
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Yeah, it's guessing probably not.
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Yeah, he probably.
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Yeah, we'll see how bad he squeaks in there.
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Yeah, I mean, we'll find out.
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Yeah, it'll be exciting.
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But it is, it's just a good time.
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There's so much weight put into the first part of the season in terms of the emotional impact.
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Not that you ever witnessed that from this show where we're very level headed.
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And we kind of just, yeah, we're above it and keel.
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We're above it all.
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As I want to knock down the chase statue in front of me.
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But yeah, we're not, we're not that far into the season.
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There's a lot of football left to be played.
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And really the ability to make the best decisions is more enabled by the data we have now than we had ever, you know, earlier in the season.
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We have a streamfinder tool.
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We have a consistency charts.
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We have ideas about defenses and kickers and offenses.
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And, you know, there's just so much more information we have now on how teams are using players.
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Good and bad, right?
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Yeah.
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And that got a book up pretty good.
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Jave on Henderson.
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Lots of questions.
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Yeah, maybe better now.
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Maybe.
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But.
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But also maybe just a better laid trap.
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Could be.
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You know, that's, that's what we're at.
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It does feel like every week something happens or it's like.
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It should be that I see how this is the week.
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Yeah.
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I mean, if I told you that that Antonio Gibson with Teres ACL and Ramondra would fumble three times, including a goal line fumble, you'd be like Traveon scoring 37 points a week.
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Now, the most recent comments are that they'd like to involve him in the return game.
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Did you see that?
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No, Ramondra.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Oh, yeah, Hendo was.
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Yeah.
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Well, the, the, the comments after the entry was like, what do you think about getting Traveon Henderson more involved?
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And he said, yeah, I'd love to get him returned, getting in the kick return game.
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I mean, it was, it was, it was more cool just to stick around kick returner.
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Well, it was the fact that he said they had just had three kick returns that were like one block away from being a huge one.
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He wants one of those to break.
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He wants to get that going in the return game more.
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But obviously that is a big part of the team to them.
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And it's so important.
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We, it does not matter what we think, what we feel it really matters with the coaches believe.
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You know, we might think Ramondra Stevenson is not that guy and has an issue that will upset Mike Rable with fumbling.
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And clearly he has an issue with fumbling.
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And clearly it's not upsetting Mike Rable.
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Mike Rable gets the decide.
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I will say this to Mike Rable's credit.
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I think it is astonishingly stupid.
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When head coaches punish players in a disciplinary fashion to the detriment of your team.
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Yeah.
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This happened like Jordan Addison missing the first quarter.
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Yes, they pulled the game out barely with 25 seconds left to go.
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How?
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With Jordan Addison.
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But you take him off the field for a quarter.
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That doesn't help your, that doesn't help your ball club.
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I thought this was actually quite ridiculous with Indianapolis.
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It's an inexcusable mistake you can say with Adonai Mitchell.
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Also, the play Adonai Mitchell made was unbelievable.
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It was such an outrageously good play.
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If you think this player can help you win, discipline them some other way.
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Make them carry your luggage.
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I don't care.
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Final.
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Dude, that would be great.
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If they can help you win, it's just a waste labor.
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Like your punishment.
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We're not finding you.
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We're not, we're not sitting you.
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We're not benching you.
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But you take out the garbage.
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Yeah, you're my butler for a week.
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Yeah, you, you literally around the team facility.
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You're doing the socks.
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You do the laundry.
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Because where do you draw the line?
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Like Jordan Addison, him not being out on the field in the first quarter almost cost them a ballgame in my opinion.
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So it's like, it didn't help.
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It certainly didn't help.
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And then he won the game form.
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It's just kind of ridiculous to me when you're punishing all the other players.
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That's my opinion.
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You punishing everybody else on the team.
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And I understand.
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So I'm already on our cover.
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Do you help the team or hurt the team?
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It's that I want him.
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I just feel like Chick-fil-A is a better place when he works there.
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Right.
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Do you know what I mean?
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It's a good dude.
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He's a great personality for Chick-fil-A.
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No, I mean, even DeMarcato, if you thought that he was a difference maker on your team, figure out a different way.
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I don't know.
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Players feel like they could be accountable.
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And Ramon and Stevenson, back to the point, really, really helps the ball club.
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He just does.
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He's a much bigger back.
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He's a better goal line back.
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He helps, I mean, he helps everybody.
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He helps the other team sometimes.
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Do you see every bun?
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Every bun.
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Everybody.
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Everybody.
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Everybody.
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Everybody.
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I'm thinking about you.
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All right.
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Rant over.
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31 Jacksonville.
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28 Kansas City.
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And one, proud of Jacksonville.
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Two, would have been really upset if they had lost this game after that egregious past interference call that was a free touchdown for Kansas City.
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That was the worst call I've seen so far this year because it was in, I mean, it was so plainly visible and right.
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And it was so plainly leading to an interception.
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You don't agree?
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No, no, I'm just laughing.
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And now which one are you talking about?
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Are you talking about the one that Trevor Lawrence threw or the one where there was the pick play on the Kansas City touchdown?
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No, I'm talking about when Trevor Lawrence was at his own 20.
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Yes.
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And then the route he's running and the guy literally truck sticks the receiver.
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Yeah.
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And it goes directly to Kansas City.
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It was just the most, to me, that was like, oh, great.
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Kansas City's doing it again.
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But now they have lost.
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You know their own three in one score games now.
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The one score 11 and only like them in the Cardinals, you know, both two and three one score games.
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Man, it, it gets you because it overinflates your confidence of how great your team is.
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Now, I don't know if you were aware of Mike because you missed you lucky dog.
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The Cardinals are the only team in the history of the National Football League to lose on three consecutive game winning field goals.
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Good.
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Nobody's ever seen it.
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Excellent. Excellent.
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The plan is working, guys.
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The plan.
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What is the plan?
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Yeah.
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Misery.
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Every one into the sun.
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Kyler, too.
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Every one.
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Marv.
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Every one.
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We didn't get any mic on yesterday's show.
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Here's an interesting thing from this game.
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One, you know, like I said, shout out to Jacksonville.
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The four and one.
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Did you, did you hear the clip of Jonathan Ganon saying that no one liked a particular play call?
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Yes.
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And they were like, yeah, we just didn't call time out.
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Well, so I would, I would have just let the play happen.
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Into the sun, man.
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I mean, Jonathan Ganon was like, he's like, he's like, I don't, I didn't like the play call.
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And then they're like, well, would you ever overwrite him?
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He goes, no, I don't overwrite him.
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He's my play caller.
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It's like, it's like, who, we don't know who's doing this.
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Yeah.
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And they, they also said, hey, find the guy.
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So you're, Jason, you were criticizing Kyler yesterday about not checking out.
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You said other quarterbacks would have checked out.
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They came out and said verbatim.
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He had no ability to check out of that play.
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Yeah.
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Well, that's smart.
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No, that's great.
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There's, okay.
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We were all stuck with the play.
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The quarterback, the play caller in the head coach.
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So we let the defense know what we were doing.
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We said, hey, guys, we're going to run up the middle.
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And then we were like, but we can't do anything about it.
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Nothing could be done.
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Nothing could be done.
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You could run a whole chick filet with the staff from the card.
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That's what you could do.
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Nothing could be done, guys.
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All right.
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Trevor Lawrence, through for a touchdown, ran for two.
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The last one was the most.
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The last one was hilarious touchdown.
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A double fall down, a double fall down.
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It was like a shoes were tied together.
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You got stepped on on the snap and then fell down, got up, fell down, got up.
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And then scored a touchdown.
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You guys see Chris Jones on the other hand?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I was hurt or cramped or something.
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You got to hope so Chris.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just standing there doing nothing.
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I he thought the play was over from the jump.
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I think he really did.
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I think he thought when Trevor Lawrence fell down, the guys that were near him were going to tackle him.
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So he didn't do anything.
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He's just standing straight up.
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And then it's like, as the play happened, like if he had stayed involved, he could have absolutely stopped that play from happening.
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But he did not.
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Jason won in our matchup between he and I exclusively by a 44 yard catch by Travis Hunter.
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That 44 yard catch was the differential in our victory.
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How do you feel now?
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Terrible.
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Terrible.
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About the Travis Hunter for Woody Marks trade that we did.
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Ooh.
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Last week.
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Um, best.
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I believe if we, if we didn't make that trade, oh, I win by so many points.
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Not because I played Travis Hunter.
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He would have been on my bench, but because I would have played to Corey Kroski merit.
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Right.
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In which case, yeah, I would have, I mean, we can't have a show anymore.
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All right.
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Patrick Mahomes though.
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Like is Mahomes?
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Mahomes and Matthew Stafford are the two quarterbacks that I'm interested in talking about in terms of.
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Like everyone thought they had something with Justin Herbert after one week.
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He's been actually quite terrible since then.
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I think I yesterday I said on the show Mike he's on pace for like 3600 yards and 21 touchdowns and 17 picks.
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The ovens of line being the culprit there.
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Yeah, it's a problem.
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But Mahomes has been very good for fantasy.
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Matthew Stafford has gotten has become very good for fantasy.
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Both of those guys are really on the radar for me on a waiver show.
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Yeah, for sure.
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He trade trade candidates.
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Yeah, I don't know that Mahomes would be out on waivers.
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Stafford will talk about him later on this episode.
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But the secret sauce with Mahomes is the rushing.
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I mean, he has been he has three games this year where he basically has 60 rushing yards.
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That is an outrageous number.
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And I worry that when rushy rice comes back like that goes away a little bit because right now it's like he doesn't really have anyone to throw the ball to.
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More a result of the running game being so bad.
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Maybe.
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I mean, I feel like he's there leading rush on the season.
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You know this.
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Yeah, he's on pace for 650 rushing yards.
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Something right around there.
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Taekwondo Thornton 3 for 90 Travis Kelsey 7 for 61 on a touchdown.
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Savior worthy 6 for 42.
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He did play.
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Brian Thomas Jr. 4 for 80.
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Not into the end zone.
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Travis 103 for 64.
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It was nice to see.
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And the touchdown pass was caught by Parker Washington.
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Britain Strange got hurt in this game.
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So we got a month.
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Johnny Johnny month took over.
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But that was your that was your Monday night football game.
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And it was a good one.
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It was a fun one.
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All right.
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Moving on.
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News and notes from around the league presented by progressive insurance.
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All right.
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I'm Marty and Hampton.
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This was the big news yesterday.
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Not good placed on IR with an ankle injury out at least four weeks.
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It's a waiver show.
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Welcome to our weekly backup running back discussion.
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Mm hmm.
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Based on history.
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You should play all of them.
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Hampton is quite the roller coaster of the season.
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You know, came out.
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Look like he was going to be great.
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The Nazi injury with the eye.
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And then it was like, okay.
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So a marion's going to be the guy.
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And then Nazi was active.
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It got really involved.
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It's like, okay.
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So a marion's going to really be split.
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And then Nazi got injured.
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And it's like, hey, I've got a marion.
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That's all.
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And then a marion got injured.
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It's a, it's a wild ride.
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Well, they've lost two straight games.
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They don't look great right now.
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They're off the line.
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It's gone.
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So Hampton's on IR for at least four weeks.
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Commanders head coach Dan Quinn said he's optimistic about Terry McClaren for week six.
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Okay.
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So that's good news for the commanders who really, I mean, they just buckled down in that game
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and shut down the chargers.
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There's 10 nothing.
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And then all of a sudden it was 2710.
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And it was just, it was over.
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Christian Watson returning or designated to return from injury.
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He'll have 21 days to be activated.
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Honestly, I feel like they really could use him.
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You know, whether you pick him up now or not, you might, you might have to because I think people in a lot of leagues will be picking him up.
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But I would imagine the expectation is he's not going to play for two weeks.
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Yeah, I would think they'll, they'll use more of the 21 day window.
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So it's, I mean, that's, I think that's more interesting for Jordan Love who has definitely it's been okay.
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You know, over the season, but if you put Watson on that team and he can really stretch the field, it becomes very intriguing down the, down the stretch here.
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I mentioned yesterday, Zach Taylor said they are going to evaluate Jake Browning and whether he's going to start in week six.
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Jason said he thought he'd start.
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They may not have another choice.
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It's just the turnovers have been outrageous.
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I think that there is a line of thinking here at this juncture to sell high on Jamar chase after last week.
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It's not that you can't get those games is that they won't be reliable.
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And if Jake Browning stays the quarterback, they won't be reliable.
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If they change quarterbacks, it could actually get worse.
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So I think that there is an opportunity potentially to trade chase away.
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I'm perfectly fine with it.
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On a double touchdown garbage time game starting Jamar every conversation this year of Jamar chase is like, who would you play over him?
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And it'll be risky because it's either you'll get just nothingness or you do have the potential for like what happens this week because he's Jamar chase.
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Yeah, Jake Browning is this might sound ridiculous, but Jake Browning is awesome for Jamar chase.
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I mean, obviously he's not Joe burrow, but by comparison of if they keep losing, which they probably will they've got a tough schedule the next couple of weeks still.
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If they make that change, you guys realize who the current backup is on the depth chart?
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I see it.
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Oh man, what's Brett rip in forts?
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Yeah, that will not go well.
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I don't know what they're stuck.
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I mean, Jamar chase has two weeks of this season where he was absolutely dominant, but his three games with Jake Browning, you know, five for 50, five for 23 and then last week six for one 10, but the first three quarters of the game were awful.
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Would you trade Jamar chase for Devonte Adams?
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Like I said, I would consider trading Jamar chase.
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I think I would do it, but I don't know if I do that.
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I would do it.
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I think for Devonte Adams.
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I don't I think I'm actually knowing that one and I want to say yes.
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George Pickens.
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Boy, I guess it's harder to trade Jamar chase than I thought it was.
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It's really hard to let go of something so beautiful.
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That's what you'd have to do probably.
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And I don't know if the pickens manager does it, but maybe you leverage the return of CD lamb to do it.
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So yeah, what Papa Josh, you traded Chase for Quentin Johnson?
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I did.
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Yeah, I would have done it too.
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Yeah, I think that could still be fine for you.
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It's just a tough week.
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Kyler Murray's foot will be monitored throughout the week says Jonathan Ganon.
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He actually left that game to go to the locker room for a second and came back and I think he'll play, but he might not.
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And if he doesn't, it's Jacobi Berset.
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Snoop Huntley.
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Where's the beef?
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Yeah, I don't know.
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We don't get a lot of Jacobi Berset talk on this.
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Jacobi Berset.
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Yeah, with the start.
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Snoop Huntley might be the starter for Baltimore.
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Whoop.
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Okay.
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See you Cooper.
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Yeah, Cooper Rush.
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Yeah, Lamar Jackson.
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If you can't play, it might be Snoop Huntley.
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Antonio Gibson out for the year with the torn ACL.
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It's a bummer.
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Tyrone Tracy limited.
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He may be back this week.
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I was a little bummed at the production from Cam last week.
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Scottaboo.
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Did you see his block?
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His block was amazing.
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He pancaked alignment.
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That dude is there's something wrong with him.
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Yes, I agree.
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You know, he's a best pop.
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He's a grand eater.
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He's a great.
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He found his.
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He is.
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He is.
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He is.
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He did find his.
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I mean, did you eat paint chips as a kid?
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Yeah, he definitely did.
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Seikwang Barkley did not practice on Monday.
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Well, de-estimated.
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Yeah, because they played Thursday.
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Every report I've seen is that he's just general soreness
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and going to play on Thursday.
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So I think they play.
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They play the giant sunthers and I football, but you got to monitor that.
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Mm-hmm.
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You could always toss somebody on your bench.
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We'll talk about who it might be.
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We'll take a break.
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We'll talk waivers.
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The waiver wire presented by Walmart.
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Well, we get the Bears Falcons Packers and Steelers back from the buy this week.
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Oh, my sweet, sweet B. Jean.
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Yeah, you welcome back.
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You still scored the most in our league.
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The tax ins.
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Did you really?
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And the Vikings.
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They're coming.
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Go on by.
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Yeah, he did it while complaining the whole week too.
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Yeah, I thought he must add a terrible week based on messages.
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I did.
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Based on all the complaining.
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Yeah, I assumed he didn't score the most in the league.
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The tax ins.
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You won't have to choose what he marks Nick Chab this week.
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They're going on by the Vikings.
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He lose Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and company going on by no Jordan Mason.
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But those are the only two teams on the weeks on the week six by.
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So it's a little bit more manageable.
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We're going to dig into the running back position to kick things off.
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Amazingly, the two touchdown cream hunt.
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Still just 33% rostered in leagues.
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Michael Carter, 59% rostered.
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And then we can talk about the Chargers backfield.
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But those three situations seem to be the leaders in the clubhouse for running back.
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Yeah, Michael Carter is my number one by a lot of.
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And like, DeMarcardo kind of got the spotlight because of the play.
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But it's like Carter played way more way more way more snaps.
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Got five targets.
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And so he's he's at the top of my list because I think that that that you should stick.
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So what if they what if they want to punish DeMarcardo?
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Well, Dan and Arty came out and said that they will have no punishment for him.
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Did he really?
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Yeah, he did.
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He came out and said there will be no punishment for him.
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He came out and apologized for how he treated him on the sideline.
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Yeah, there's unbelievable.
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That was which he.
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He yelled at his face.
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I think he hit him a couple times.
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And then he came out and apologized said that's not how he wants to act.
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He wants to be more level headed.
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Like DeMarcardo was destroyed.
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And you just went and gotten his face like I don't know.
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I don't know what help.
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I don't think football fans are happy in any situation.
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Yeah, there's there is no right answer here because honestly part of me wants you to take DeMarcardo.
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Yellowed him on the sideline and say please go to the locker room pack your bags.
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You are not no longer an Arizona cardinal.
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Yeah.
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And then part of you wants to be like, hey, you got to build your players up.
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You got to do the right thing and not hurt your team right out of anger.
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And he has decided to do neither and both.
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So he's like, I'm sorry, I hate you.
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I'm just kidding, baby.
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You're fine.
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You're not going to be punished at all.
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He's probably the starter now.
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Michael Carter probably doesn't touch the ball over compensate.
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Yeah, just over and over and over and say that's my guess because can and doesn't know what he's doing.
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He's like, don't sue me.
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Yeah.
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So much of a death.
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Yeah.
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Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, I was not assault.
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Look, you got the star wearing pads.
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So much of it has to do have the player reacts to it too.
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And you don't know that.
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That's all behind closed door, you know what I mean, the what is a Murray DeMarcardo's attitude
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about what happened and I know my attitude.
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He's moving on.
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Personally, I so you've got Tre Benson, who is on the IR.
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His seems like it will be longer than four weeks, but you know, I'll go to return him forward.
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week. So maybe that pushes Carter ahead, but the,
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Maureen Hampton, obviously,
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Tray Benson has already been one week into the IR.
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The situation with the chargers, I feel like the chargers are still a better
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offense, a better team, even though they've been struggling and they have the
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online issues. They are a better team, a better offense and have a better
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quarterback. And so that situation is very similar to the Cardinals with
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Hassan Haskins and Kamani Vidal, so soon.
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But I think I want Hasskins more than Carter. Really?
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You're that, you're that confident that Haskins is the guy.
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Yeah, I am not. So when you watch the game, when you watch the game live with
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the chargers, what you saw was towards the end of the game.
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Hampton got injured, wasn't able to make it back. And then it was Vidal
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Sassoon getting the work. But when you actually look at how the game flow
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went, Hassan Haskins was involved early. Hassan Haskins was the
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backup. Yes. And then later in the game, I mean, they literally it was a
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trail ants out there. Yeah, you know, they had pulled everything. That was when
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Vidal Sassoon was playing. So I think it's definitely Hassan's as the starter.
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Sure. My counter to that would be literally Michael Carter, who was not
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active for the Arizona Cardinals. Demar Cotta was the was the backup. And then
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he remained the backup. That's where I'm saying of Michael Carter is by far
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my number one because I know he's the guy where the charger situation is at
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Haskins. Do they or like do they go to Tampa Bay route where we thought
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Sean Tucker might get more play, but they went all to Rashad White. I don't think
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either of those players is good enough for it to be just them. Well, yeah, it'll
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be the bad. It's the biggest issue. It's figuring out like I'm Carter by so much
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much. Well, Carter's not over either. It's gonna be all just him either. I mean,
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Demar Cotto will be in one week. We've already seen it. Yeah, I mean, Michael
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Carter was got all but seven touches in the entire. Yeah, I think 15 carries
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with targets is the recipe for Carter. It was 18. Oh, you're saying
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I'm saying that's a baseline. And the I I think the Dow is the better player than
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Haskins. And we have seen and I mean, we've seen that's the problem is it's like
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they're not just going to play Haskins out of some some loyalty or depth
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chart. They're just going to play the player that plays the best. And I have a
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hard time investing enough fab in that situation personally. I but Jason has
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conviction around Haskins. And I don't think it's wrong. Jay to be like what
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what we saw on Sunday leans to Haskins. And that's how I would lean my priority
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and my fab. But I don't feel real confident that it won't end up being
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Videl. Yeah, I will say that neither one of those players are very good. And the
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offensive line now with the injuries does not look good. It's just a matter of
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still scoring opportunities. I will say this. The Cardinals around the red zone
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over the last couple of years. They have been they rush the touchdowns in. And we've
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seen it whether it was Demarcado, whether it was Michael Carter, Benson Conner of
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old. Bam night last week. Bam night got one. And so you know, how many touchdowns
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each team scores? I feel like the chargers will score more. But maybe it just maybe
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this is put the ball in, you know, the hands of Justin Herbert Moore and the running
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game doesn't doesn't work. Maybe you swayed me to the Michael Carter side. My
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order would be Carter hunt. And then I probably would take the lower fat. I would
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go low fab on both of the the charger guys personally and just try to see whoever
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ends up on my team as a dart throw outside of that pay attention to the snap counts
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going out for Kendrick Miller. They've gone up five consecutive weeks. Yeah. If
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they were to trade, I know you guys don't think it's hot likely. Well, I just
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it's not to Arizona. But I think it's a chance that Camarice does. Yeah, I mean,
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to me, it's like you also defer to the veteran that wants to like if your season's lost
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and the veteran wants to go and he's paid his dues, there's a chance he asks to go do
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that. Yeah. You know, it didn't work out for Sean Tucker this week. I don't think it's
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going to work out for Sean Tucker at this point with such a limited role. They just didn't
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give him very much work at all. It was disappointing. Pay attention to Bershard Smith still. If
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the chart, if the chiefs want to keep getting him involved, but again, not a lot of work.
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Beishal Tutan. Not much going on there. Chris Rodriguez didn't get almost any work in
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this game, which Mike, we talked about yesterday with JCM on the studs, but like he had not
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practiced JCM and not practiced weeks ago. That Rodriguez had played. And then now it was
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the JCM breakout game. We expect that sake one is fine, but it's worth noting like
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at least a little tiny discussion in case all of a sudden something gets worse as the
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week goes on. How do you order that back? Because right in the beginning of the season,
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it was like, oh, we'll ship. He looks like that guy. He looked great. Then he broke his ribs.
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I traded for tank bigsby and then AJ Dettles, but I don't know that he actually broke his ribs.
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Like that might have just been an unconferent report. He came back way too soon, but like,
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and they called it an oblique. There's now three running backs there. How would you just
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order them? And I personally, if I'm going after these guys, it's like zero dollar bits.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'm. Yes. And I don't because I don't think this is a high priority. The
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problem is is I think tank bigsby's had zero opportunities with this team, but he very
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much looks like the Michael Carter of the situation to me could be where you traded significant
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capital for him. If an actual injury knocked sake one out, not mid game, but for weeks, I think
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bigsby gets the most work. He certainly could for this week, if I'm just trying to prepare
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for that emergency situation, I would put Dylan at the top, but I don't feel this is great
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because I think I've got shipply at the top. So we don't want. Yeah. This is a, this is
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more of a, I mean, like, but Michael Carter, if he still happens to be out there is a great
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ad. But otherwise, it's a lot of stashing of players. The drop candidates that running
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back to people are asking about what he marks gone by. No, no. As they have Pacheco with
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a couple of better weeks, he, him and Cream Hunt, it's so tough because Pacheco is the
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one who's playing a lot. Cream Hunt got the two touchdowns and had the, probably always
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well get the big touchdowns. He probably will. RJ Harvey. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not
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drop RJ Harvey. The, if RJ Harvey was on waivers, I would pick him up. I would too. It
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wouldn't play him. No, I would not play him. Um, Jake, a Dobbins looks excellent. He is
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the starter. RJ Harvey might be irrelevant the entire rest of the season. But this is
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a rookie with high draft capital. Who has looked fine on what in his opportunities? Amazingly,
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I can't even count over the course of the season. How many have been called back? Like,
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if you look at his box, like he didn't do anything. It's like, well, he did a lot of things.
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They said in college, his college reports, he needs a few holds to make a big. Yeah. Well,
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he's good when they, when they hold, they just got to get the flags not going right. But
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I, I wouldn't drop a rookie. Traveon. No, I wouldn't not. Especially with Antonio Gibson.
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I know that Ramondra remains the guy, but they like to use multiple backs there. This
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was like last week, there was a lot of Bill Kroski drops. And he was on our, you know, our
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Wednesday episode was my pick him up if he got dropped. Rookies that have shown a little
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bit, they might get opportunity as the season goes along. You don't want those guys on
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waivers. You want them on your roster? I, Kyle shared something. I've tried to find it.
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Yeah, do you have? Yeah. So Kyle looked it up of the, of the 52 runny backs drafted
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in rounds two or three over the last decade. 46% of them failed to have a 12 point
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week within their first five games. And 67% of them had just one or fewer. So they don't
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all progress this fast. So, you know, Henry, Mixon, Javante, Miles, Andrew James Cook,
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those were all names in that category. Day two, three, or around two, three running
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backs that had not broken out at this point. And I mean, it's like a, there are scenarios.
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And then, you know, Jason, Jason's right there, there is a scenario where Harvey ends up
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not working out at all. And that will be a big time bummer because he looks like he has
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juice. But it's like Nick Chubb was drafted in the second round, did nothing for eight or
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nine weeks. And then they traded Carlos hide. And then Nick Chubb was a league winning running
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back. It's just the, take it out. He's never been hurt before, right? No, right. He
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is, he's got two strong legs, man. Yeah, both of those guys are just keep them on your
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roster, keep them tucked away. Yeah, the edge space Kyle pointing out at this point, Bucky
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had Bucky Irving of last year, release and league winning Bucky Irving at this point had
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one 12 point game through his first five weeks. Again, not to say that they will become
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those things, but, but we don't have enough time to throw them away. Well, and if anyone's
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going to all the sudden catch a hot streak to finish the season, it's these guys. Exactly.
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It's not a veteran who's been playing for four or five years. Yeah. Hassan Haskins has
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had his opportunities to kind of show he could do something special. And he has shown he can't.
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Now he will have opportunity and opportunity can override that and be worthy of fantasy,
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you know, goodness, but not greatness. Greatness will come from these guys who have not yet
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earned their NFL opportunity. And when they do, they show that they've got some special.
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Wide receivers. We want to let you know, Jalen Coker also eligible to return in week five.
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I don't know how much we care, but a little bit, a little bit. Yeah. Christian Watson eligible
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to return in week six, Jaden Reed, week eight, Saturday, tell me in week 10, Mike, I don't
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know if you saw, but Isaiah Bond had eight useless targets. I did. I, yeah, those Cleveland
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Cleveland. I did see a good amount of the Gabriel throws. If we want to call, are those
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targets, you're talking because they're short area? Oh, I and just flying over people's
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heads. I mean, he had two touchdowns. Yeah. He was okay. He didn't turn the ball over
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on the almost one. Yeah. Hey, listen, listen, there's a math equation. Every three Cleveland
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targets is one real target. Okay. That's good. That's fine. So it would, so targets matter
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if you get 30 of them, if you get 30. All right. Wide receiver pickups. Let's talk about
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some names that are out there. There are a few names that we've talked about repeatedly,
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week over week names that have been floating around like Trey Tucker and Troy Franklin
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that are just sitting there and they're just kind of, you know, okay, you can add them.
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You can spot start them, but they haven't been consistent. But the bigger names you had
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the huge week from Kendrick born in San Francisco. I do want people to make sure that you
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want Jennings is not on waiver wires or have been cut because he will return to this team
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and will be more necessary to Kendrick born. But he was targeted on almost 30% of his
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routes last week, speaking of Kendrick born, 142 yards. You can't ignore that. Romeo
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Dobbs is coming off of a by week after his three touchdown game again, spot start category
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to me. A great Cincinnati air zone the next two weeks for a lot of by week guys get dropped.
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But let's talk about Ryan Flanoi. Why receiver for Dallas 114 yard game.
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The act is playing as good as any quarterback in football. Not named Baker Mayfield.
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You're freaking MVP. I was going to say he would he would if the season was over today,
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he would be the MVP. So Jason, you made that you made the comment about like, why do you do
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this yourself? Why are you a fan of the Cardinals? I will and can not ever abandon my team.
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I fundamentally don't believe in that. I think you got it. I'm with you Jay. You got to go.
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You got to go down with the ship for the chance that you get pulled out. No, no, no.
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And because I want the glory. I want the glory. If even if I'm 70 years old now,
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I'll be like, I was a fan. If they if they're good again, I'm not just jumping right back in.
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Yeah, but I'll know that you were the. Oh, no, you'll feel real bad, Mike. You'll feel so bad.
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No pride. No, it is pride. It is the pride in myself. If I was my money, my time is the most valuable
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thing in the entire world. And they are you don't have to watch it. You just can't switch teams.
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That's all I'm saying. Would you rather be Jack or Rose?
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Is this a Titanic? This is a Titanic thing because one of them went down with the ship.
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The other one survived. And she told the stories of how oh man, I was on that terrible thing.
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But she was an old lady. I don't want to be on the Titanic at all. But that's where we were born.
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We were born in Arizona or close enough. That's where we live. We're on the Titanic. All of this
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was to say if I could pick another team would be freaking Tampa Bay in Baker Mayfield.
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For sure. Between him and Ibuka, he's they they are everyone's favorite second place team right now.
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Anyways, Ryan for you. One noise name. Ryan Flanoi is not very many of us are familiar with.
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No, six round pick in 2024. It's kind of a breakout game for him.
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It was. We've had enough Jalen to know that he's not it.
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Exactly. Right. And then and then turpin.
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Turpin doesn't hurt. And he got hurt but it doesn't even matter. Turpin is very much a he's a
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gadgetry special teams. Get the ball in his hands. Maybe something happens. I think it matters
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in terms of snaps that it. Well, maybe not maybe not maybe not anymore. Maybe. But who was the
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I was going to say we had a Dallas cowboy years ago be the the week one sensation.
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Well, I was thinking of a Levis kitchen all in the same. No, no type of situation is
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Ogultry. Yeah, it was Ogultry. The for this team for the Cowboys. I think it was three touchdowns
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and week one did nothing else. It will like is this a is this something to be chased go after?
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Is this a product of that I don't think it's going to be long.
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Pickens is seeing sauce. And so the jets are just not good. Other than that player you could tuck
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away for no almost no. Yeah, I mean, this to me is I would rather have this be more of a spot start
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because CDLAM is gone. Turpin is injured and Jalen tolver doesn't have it. So you've got
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pickens and they need someone else. And so I think that's that's where you know, he's
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shined and you might get another week out of that. You know, they're playing Carolina. It's a fine
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matchup. I don't expect CDLAM this week. But as soon as CDLAM is back like he's not a stash to
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me because when LAM is back, LAM and pickens are going to take the targets. You did see three for
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90 for Taekwondo Thornton. He keeps kind of getting to Dunford, Kansas City and other spot start.
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There's not a big like ad in play every week name, including born, including dobs. I mean,
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dobs has never been that. So there isn't a name jumping out to me unless you see one. Dobs might be,
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I mean, he is probably my my number one pick. But honestly, Alec Pierce is maybe a name that should
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be talked about because he has the potential to have like this is the type of player I'm completely
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with you. It's not, you know, oh, you've got to have him. But if you've got bi weeks, if you've
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got injuries and you're like, I have to start someone off of waivers. I've to actually put them
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not just on my roster and that's who I get after fat, but I've got to find someone on waivers that
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I'm going to put in my lineup. Like I've got Travis Hunter. I had to play Travis Hunter this week.
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I would much rather play Alec Pierce over Travis Hunter. Alec Pierce coming off of an injury though.
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It was a good question. Okay. So he's not he's not dealing with, you know,
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you heard of your first not considered an injury to these gentlemen. No, no, no, it is.
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I know. Very seriously. It's not a late thing. It's not a hey. You'll be slow for two weeks. You
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know, yeah, yeah, honestly, I'm just not wildly excited about the the wider seabirds as a bond is
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getting the snaps in the targets and he will for a long time. So I don't tell him it's not coming off
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the buy or sorry, off the injury less for at least, I mean week 10 is the earliest. So I
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say a bond will have a lot of opportunity. And Jerry Judy's bad at football. So just pay
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attention there. I guess 30 targets. I would say the guy who probably like I would start over Alec
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Pierce. So I just made a case for who's still available in the vast majority of leagues. You
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you talked about it, but Tyke one Thornton is he is he is involved. They're playing the lions.
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This week like that's going to be, you know, a lot of points. They've got a 51 point over
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under right now. And so will Patrick go home to have a bomb in this game? Probably one. And
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Matthew Golden. I would not do that. I wouldn't do it, but Jerry Judy sure. I hold on to him
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one more week. You missed Alec. I am a newer. No, I heard it. I heard it. It was a good. You can
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drop him because because Titans. Yeah. Jamie Sunwell. I still would not. Keon Coleman.
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Yeah. That's the only. I mean, given if he was out on the way, we're aware compared to that list,
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I'd pick up. Yeah, exactly. Given the list of way of wide receivers, would I drop?
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What if I come home and to pick up a Michael Carter? Oh, yeah, sure. But I'm not dropping Keon
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Coleman for all these. Three of five matchups of the year. 26 or fewer receiving
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yards. He is that team is a roulette. Yeah. If you needed him to catch a bunch of passes,
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like in week one, he'll do it. I don't feel like he passes last week. Well, I mean, he did it.
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You caught touchdown. Yeah. So I mean, look, I don't feel like a touchdown still ended up with eight
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points. You betcha. Yeah, seven lower seven targets in a touchdown. Oh, yeah, seven, seven targets.
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And a touchdown eight fantasy points. I mean, that was there other than King Cade. I don't know
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if you're happy with above a little bill last week. All right, we'll take a break. We'll talk tight
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ends. Defense is quarterbacks. All right, George Kettle is eligible to return in week six. We don't
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yet know what's going on. Probably the last word was it's not sounding good. It was sounding great
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from the reporters and then Shanahan cold watered us last week. We told you pick up Mason Taylor.
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This week 12 targets. Yeah, nine nine catches 67. Yeah, he was targeted so much. Yeah, so it's a very
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good sign with Justin Fields. Two weeks back with Justin Fields, two weeks of Mason Taylor emerging.
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They don't have other pass catches. Take your disgusting cowardly kitty cat points. Yeah, there you go.
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Oh, he's a cowardly lion. Is that it? Maybe if I was to have like if you had your tight end
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group, you probably want Mason Taylor. Yes, the breakaway, you know, not everyone can be a George
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Kettle, you know, a Travis Kelsey in his prime. A dog. Yeah, not a real good, but at the at that
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position, a Zacharyts can get it done. You know what I mean? Just guys are so rude to Mason Taylor.
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This is a young athletic talented son of a Hall of Famer. He's very talented. I'm trying to speak his
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praises here. I know you said you just compared him to Zach Hertz is not speak. Zach Hertz is
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400 years old. Mason Taylor's in his early 20. Yeah, Zach Hertz was always. No, he wasn't. He is
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a brilliant kitty cat. Like he knows where to go. Yeah, he is a pro's pro. Zach Hertz has always
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been. Zach Hertz was your point Mason Taylor into smaller box. That's all I'm saying. You're
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putting Zach Hertz at two small box. Zach Hertz was great. No, Zach Hertz was outstanding, but he was
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he was much more athletic and more capable of yards after the catch when he was younger. Box size
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TBD for Mason Taylor. Yeah, TBD. That's fine. I you don't need to put it. I'm just saying he's
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he's performing and doing the most he can do with what he gets from. Oh, he's doing the most
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he could possibly his routes. Totally catching our sit down routes. My point is Zach Hertz. Stop
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talking about Zach. No, no, this he was great. He was great. This is a guy who was like 10 and a half
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a catch, 10 a catch, 10.4, 9.4, during those numbers, I just said, tight in nine, six, three, two,
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five. Like that's that's how he profusively smart. He knows where to go. He can get the targets.
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He's going to catch it. He doesn't have to break tackles or have a dog in him. That's all I'm saying.
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Do you want to play Mason Taylor this week or? Yes. Jake Tonjes, Mick basketball, who gets to
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take on Tampa Bay, 11 targets, seven for 41 with the score this past week. I probably
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played Tonjes because he's got a better chance of scoring. And why is that?
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Because he's got a quarterback, a real quarterback. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Justin Field sucks. Justin Fields is electric in the fourth quarter. Oh my gosh.
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I just oh that garbage. I want it so tasty. I want George Kittle back. Yeah.
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Bad Jake Tonjes. Oh, the Jets game is in London. Tonjes, Mick basketball is what are the rules
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about transporting felines to overseas? You probably need certificates. You gotta have stuff
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a rabie shot. I think if you just give them Benadrill, he should be able to make the flight.
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You normally need to have them quarantine for a while. You guys are psychos. They'll be down
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with the luggage. It'll be fine. Did you know it's climate control? Did you know A.J.
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Barnard is three top 10 weeks and five weeks? I did not realize that. Did you know? I know
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you had to touch them seven catches last week on seven targets. That's he scored in three of four
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weeks. It's interesting. I was just about to say Tonjes, Mick basketball is the Titan 10 on the
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season right now. Barnard Titan 9. They're getting it done. I will say that if you want to talk
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quarterback, I am more confident in Sam Donald than either of the San Francisco guys right now.
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Because while they're getting it done, Brock is injured and Mack is weirdo. He played great.
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John Johnson. People want to know if you can drop him. No. No. I would drop him from a
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major. Taylor. If you really need a Titan, but John again playing the game, if John were on
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the waiver wire right now, he would be a priority ad for him. He always has been for you though.
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Yeah. I would rather have John than Mason Taylor. John Johnson has not been a couple of bad weeks
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in a row. Yeah. Not been good. But I believe that everyone we're talking about, including Mason
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Taylor, they're going to be kind of streaming spot starts. There's very few tight ends in the league.
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The Tarris you lock him in. Well, the target. I know you don't care about Tarris.
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John Johnson in the beginning of the year. Neither one of those guys is getting 10 targets every
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single week. Okay. Yeah. I like Mason Taylor more. The old Johnson got into the ends on twice.
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And they need him with various slates. I don't I think he's a scary terrifying. He is a scary
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start. I mean, he doesn't put any yards up. No, not at all. For being the most athletic
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tight end in history, he really doesn't do a lot with that athleticism. But the opportunity should
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be there. He still had seven targets. I mean, I mean, Jackson dark games, five targets, seven
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targets. And it hasn't turned into production. No neighbors. Well, it did this last week to touch.
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Yeah. I mean, yards, you know, I don't I'd feel I would throw Theo on my, yeah, on my back.
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I'll take Mason Taylor over it. Do you want? And you probably go Theo over Tondes. That's McVasca
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ball. Just for long term. Oh, if you were looking long term, yeah, on a flyer. Yeah. I don't look
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long term. It tight in unless it's like two or three names, including John Johnson. Like I,
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I'm just going to play the best player that week. Things are changing so quick. I would agree.
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But if you have, if you're doing the thing where you're playing John Johnson one week or Zach
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or it's one week or Mark Andrews one week, at that point, I do think Mason Taylor and Theo Johnson,
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those guys should be picked up as a second tight end in hopes that they can in, you know,
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their, their early career, you know, rookie and a second year player develop into the number two
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target for their franchise. Defense is this week. There's quite a few that have good, good
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matchups. The Patriots have the Saints in New Orleans. They're stashed them playing great. The
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Colts have the Cardinals at home. The Browns are actually Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh has the Browns.
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That's the one that I'm more interested in. Although you can play both sides of it. I like
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the Pittsburgh side more. It's in Pittsburgh. Their defense has been outrageously good for two
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consecutive weeks and they get the face of rookie and Dylan Gabriel. They didn't move the ball
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tremendously. Well, they, they had what they scored two times. So I was saying it's a 37 and a half.
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I like, I like both sides, but I like, I like Pittsburgh way more. Yeah. I mean, there's so many teams.
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The Rams had such a bad outing last week, but they go to Baltimore that is snoop. Yeah, snoop.
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You're going to do it again. Pro Bowl. The Las Vegas Raiders play Tennessee, by the way,
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and they're going to put pressure on Cam War all day long. Yeah. I'm, I'm perfectly fine with the
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Raiders. So that would be another one. And then just keep an eye on your league for the Packers.
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If they were dropped on the buy because they play Cincinnati and their favorite by 175 points.
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I'll take, you can take it over. No, let them cover. Oh, okay. That was this week's waiver wire
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Well, this could be me this week. I don't know, depending on what Kyla Murray,
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I, you probably shouldn't be in my line up anyways, but what happens with this foot? We'll see
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streaming quarterback options for the week. You need a spot start. There are some good ones out
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there. I think for me, it's insert 49ers quarterback. I think the matchup against Tampa Bay and the
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fact that they can't run the football the way that they've been running it in the past. You've seen
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good fancy weeks from Mac Jones, good ones from Brock Birdie. Whoever starts for San Francisco's
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goes my stream of the week. Yeah, I'm going to go with Matthew Stafford. He's leading the entire
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NFL and passing yards right now and he gets the Baltimore matchup that we just saw CJ Stroud go
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ham man. There you have. I know their injuries. It's just it's sad to see if Stafford gets to play
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a college team, which right now it feels like you're, you're just playing backups. It's,
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it's pretty easy. You look at what they've given up on the season. They let Patrick Mahomes score
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three more points on his average Stroud scored more than his average. Everyone who plays him has
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basically done well, except for the Lions and Stafford's been pretty on fire. I think the Devonte
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Adams around the goal line has really helped his fantasy output. And if you need to get a little
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bit nasty with your streaming quarterback, Bryce Young is playing the Dallas Cowboys and the Dallas
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Cowboys have been allowing lots and lots of points above expectation to oppose in quarterbacks.
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And they are in fact dead last and expected points per pass attempt. And the, I mean, that
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LeGette, the LeGette throw and touchdown. I thought that was that was legit. That was like a good
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play in Teterola, McMillan is I think we're about to see percolating. I think it's about to
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go off. If you want Teterola McMillan, you need to go do it before this weekend against the
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Dallas Cowboys. I think this will be the where the window closes on any sort of affordable offers.
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Yeah, it's been, it's been frustrating because he makes plays every week that are like,
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he looks so good. Yeah, he looks great. But then, you know, Bryce Young looks so bad so often.
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He does. He just he hasn't scored yet. Yeah, that's really it's on at some point. It is really
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crazy. I mean, you talk about it's not like Bryce Young has thrown no touchdowns, but he's on
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pace for 1200 yards and it doesn't have a touchdown right now. I was going to say right now,
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Teter McMillan has six fewer yards than Devonte Adams. Like he's 14th in the league right now at
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wide receiver. He's, he's playing very, very well. Just need some touchdowns. 14th in yardage or
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what's in yardage? I'm curious what his fantasy. Do you have Teterola like what points wide receiver?
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What? All right. Now in the season. Just overall. Rob points. Yeah, just like. Raw points. It's in the
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top 27. Okay. Okay. Well, that are doing for today's episode of the show. We are redrafting the
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